[JamesFiiO]

just some information, maybe it can help people understand our situation.

1, for most of our products, it is hard to implement the PEQ or a dencent EQ , I know it is very important for some people, so we are consider to add a individual DSP chip into our desktop products cause the ADI DPS is quite big and need more power.

But I must say that for most of our products , the hardware limited the ability to add PEQ or high quality EQ. and plz don't compare to other cause each products is different, to supports the LCD screen , there are not more room to add/improve the firmware.

2, I don't know how other company work, but basically we implement the PEQ based on the SDK from Qualcomm, and they don't provide the source code. anyway, we will try our best to make it better ,especially the UI and anything we can do.

anyway, we have not advertised that BTR7 supports PEQ when it launched market, but we always like to improve our products step by step.

 

[ouaille]

just some information, maybe it can help people understand our situation.

1, for most of our products, it is hard to implement the PEQ or a dencent EQ , I know it is very important for some people, so we are consider to add a individual DSP chip into our desktop products cause the ADI DPS is quite big and need more power.

But I must say that for most of our products , the hardware limited the ability to add PEQ or high quality EQ. and plz don't compare to other cause each products is different, to supports the LCD screen , there are not more room to add/improve the firmware.

2, I don't know how other company work, but basically we implement the PEQ based on the SDK from Qualcomm, and they don't provide the source code. anyway, we will try our best to make it better ,especially the UI and anything we can do.

anyway, we have not advertised that BTR7 supports PEQ when it launched market, but we always like to improve our products step by step.

Thanks James for this answer.
It is clear BTR7 never advertised peq availability and to be honest my motivation was to early test its sound as I do participate in audio tech discussions in my french audio community.
I understand fiio makes it own decision on which parts to spend power budgets, more on display, less on other features etc.
Just to mention a common trap here would be only to consider its own user base as most likely they accept the design as it is. While testing multi brands, clearly you can see as user/tester the good and the bad, and this is why I post here about peq because I beleive it is becoming a mandatory feature, that is good you also made this decision. I will list shortly UI features that are missing to me, based on other BT vendor and also tone booster awesome UI. UI features are impressive, and probably not all related to hardware.

 

[ouaille]

Side question, seems EQ is peq with default Q settings ? If yes that means traditional EQ can now select the frequencies it applies on.

 

[ouaille]

Here are some UI feedbacks for my case @JamesFiiO @FiiO

• Missing UI feature to save named users eqs and peqs (ex name per iem)
• Ability to store several user peq in hardware (to make it accessible to every paired device) or store local xml file to make it shareable to other player device paired to BTR7.
• In UI on frequency data, ability to enable/disable the peq it to avoid resetting, speeds up the tuning and trials. Competition use a quick switch, very convenient.
• Curve display: scaling setting should be available for better rendering.
• Control through the sliders sounds very good, contrary to competition that allows control directly from the curve. Super imposing the sliders on the curve would optimize the rendering and control. Double tap on slider to access the peq parameters for gain, Q frequency for more fine tuning.
• Peq filters: seems low shelf and high self are missing, very much used . (may be hardware related)
• Curve rendering colouring the filter effect to allow users to guess their changes.

Thanks,

 

[EdgeDC]

Here are some UI feedbacks for my case @JamesFiiO @FiiO

• Missing UI feature to save named users eqs and peqs (ex name per iem)
• Ability to store several user peq in hardware (to make it accessible to every paired device) or store local xml file to make it shareable to other player device paired to BTR7.
• In UI on frequency data, ability to enable/disable the peq it to avoid resetting, speeds up the tuning and trials. Competition use a quick switch, very convenient.
• Curve display: scaling setting should be available for better rendering.
• Control through the sliders sounds very good, contrary to competition that allows control directly from the curve. Super imposing the sliders on the curve would optimize the rendering and control. Double tap on slider to access the peq parameters for gain, Q frequency for more fine tuning.
• Peq filters: seems low shelf and high self are missing, very much used . (may be hardware related)
• Curve rendering colouring the filter effect to allow users to guess their changes.

Thanks,

…now THIS is the kind of thing I was talking about when I said constructive feedback earlier. Nicely done.

 

[cloneman]

Is there a device that allows you to use an in-line 3.5mm mic, plus aptx Voice?

 

[Ab10]

Please post some pictures of the PEQ of BTR7 here....

 

[ouaille]

Please post some pictures of the PEQ of BTR7 here....

 

[Andrew_WOT]

In UI on frequency data, ability to enable/disable the peq

Isn't there toggle already in the upper right corner?

 

[ouaille]

Isn't there toggle already in the upper right corner?

I meant a toggle for each peq tile that would retain values for future use but would allow to enable/disable its effect.
I attach a picture showing on other peq here a slider disables filter 2 and 3:

 

[FiiO Willson]

I meant a toggle for each peq tile that would retain values for future use but would allow to enable/disable its effect.
I attach a picture showing on other peq here a slider disables filter 2 and 3:

Here are some UI feedbacks for my case @JamesFiiO @FiiO

• Missing UI feature to save named users eqs and peqs (ex name per iem)
• Ability to store several user peq in hardware (to make it accessible to every paired device) or store local xml file to make it shareable to other player device paired to BTR7.
• In UI on frequency data, ability to enable/disable the peq it to avoid resetting, speeds up the tuning and trials. Competition use a quick switch, very convenient.
• Curve display: scaling setting should be available for better rendering.
• Control through the sliders sounds very good, contrary to competition that allows control directly from the curve. Super imposing the sliders on the curve would optimize the rendering and control. Double tap on slider to access the peq parameters for gain, Q frequency for more fine tuning.
• Peq filters: seems low shelf and high self are missing, very much used . (may be hardware related)
• Curve rendering colouring the filter effect to allow users to guess their changes.

Thanks,

Thank you very much for your suggestions on our new PEQ feature, and feedback!

Since this is our first PEQ launch, it is still in its infancy, and as some users have said, it means we are starting to make and improve it~~~

We always say, there is nothing difficult in the world, only those who are willing to do it, we believe that given enough time, we should gradually give you a satisfactory PEQ function!

But as JAMES said, because of the hardware limitation, not all products will have PEQ function, but if the conditions allow, we will gradually improve them

 

[Strifeff7]

Keep it up with the good work,
Cheers,


@FiiO Willson @FiiO

 

[JamesFiiO]

Thanks James for this answer.
It is clear BTR7 never advertised peq availability and to be honest my motivation was to early test its sound as I do participate in audio tech discussions in my french audio community.
I understand fiio makes it own decision on which parts to spend power budgets, more on display, less on other features etc.
Just to mention a common trap here would be only to consider its own user base as most likely they accept the design as it is. While testing multi brands, clearly you can see as user/tester the good and the bad, and this is why I post here about peq because I beleive it is becoming a mandatory feature, that is good you also made this decision. I will list shortly UI features that are missing to me, based on other BT vendor and also tone booster awesome UI. UI features are impressive, and probably not all related to hardware.

sure, I understand and enjoy the communication with you guys, and just want to share what we thought and why we decided.

 

[FiiO]

The new firmware V1.71 for FiiO BTR7 is now available!​

The following changes and improvements have been made to the FW1.71:

1. Added PEQ function (go to the EQ menu on the latest FiiO Control app for settings);
2. Changed the setting of aptX Adaptive to off by default (can be enabled on the FiiO Control app);
3. Improved the logic of UI display;
4. Improved the abnormal issue of answering phone calls through the 4.4mm headphone output;
5. Miscellaneous performance improvements and bug fixes.

Note: Please update the FiiO Control to latest version first.
BTR7 firmware download: Click here
How to upgrade the BTR7: Click here

 

[Merkurio]

Thank you very much for your suggestions on our new PEQ feature, and feedback!

Since this is our first PEQ launch, it is still in its infancy, and as some users have said, it means we are starting to make and improve it~~~

We always say, there is nothing difficult in the world, only those who are willing to do it, we believe that given enough time, we should gradually give you a satisfactory PEQ function!

But as JAMES said, because of the hardware limitation, not all products will have PEQ function, but if the conditions allow, we will gradually improve them

I hope to see future products from you with proper PEQ hardware capabilities (I.E with the Qualcomm QCC5171 chip).

A Topping DX3 Pro+ killer with PEQ capabilities would be awesome for a compact desktop solution.