FiiO BTR3-The World' First Bluetooth Headphone Amplifier, SBC/AAC/aptX/aptX LL/aptX HD/LDAC/HWA (LHDC)
Jul 31, 2019 at 4:52 AM Post #1,456 of 1,870
FiiO Launched New Flagship Wireless Portable DAC/Amp BTR5

Features :
1. Detachable back clip
2. 3.5mm (Single-Ended) + 2.5mm (Balanced)
3. Dual ES9218P DAC chip
4. Built-in XMOS chip
5. Supports native DSD decoding

Scheduled to be release in September/October (subjected to change)

Estimated SRP at USD 99.99 (subjected to final confirmation)

Update from Bluetooth 4.2 to Bluetooth 5.0
Update battery capacity from 300mAh to 500mAh
Update DAC chip from AK4376A to Dual ES9218
Bigger and heavier

Source from: HiFiGO news

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Jul 31, 2019 at 8:19 PM Post #1,457 of 1,870
I’m looking at the BTR1K, BTR3 and the upcoming BTR5. In terms of size and weight (portability) which model would be a good balance that is lightweight and yet provide good enough sound? This will mostly be used during my commute, and will not be my main setup (Chord Mojo, Q5s). So I do not need the ultimate SQ
 
Aug 1, 2019 at 2:47 AM Post #1,458 of 1,870
I’m looking at the BTR1K, BTR3 and the upcoming BTR5. In terms of size and weight (portability) which model would be a good balance that is lightweight and yet provide good enough sound? This will mostly be used during my commute, and will not be my main setup (Chord Mojo, Q5s). So I do not need the ultimate SQ
Dear friend,

Which headphone and mobile phone you are using? If your mobile phone doesn't support Bluetooth codec like aptxHD, LDAC, the BTR1K may be suitable enough for you.

Best regards
 
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Aug 2, 2019 at 4:06 AM Post #1,460 of 1,870
I will be using an iPhone and IEM’s (Fiio FH5, Massdrop Plus, Shure SE215 etc)
Dear friend,

The headphones could connect to 2.5mm headphone cable as well. So if your budget is enough, and you do not mind waiting a few time more, the BTR5 may be better choice.

Best regards
 
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Aug 2, 2019 at 2:02 PM Post #1,461 of 1,870
Dear friend,

The headphones could connect to 2.5mm headphone cable as well. So if your budget is enough, and you do not mind waiting a few time more, the BTR5 may be better choice.

Best regards

I'm going to go against the grain here. The highest quality codec that iPhones currently support is AAC. BTR1K, BTR3, and BTR5 all support this.

If you're already using 2.5mm balanced cables with your IEMs in your main setup, it might be nice to have the BTR5's 2.5mm balanced jack so you don't have to swap cables around. On the flip side, if you have more 3.5mm unbalanced IEMs, that might be too annoying to be worth the hassle.

Factors to consider include:
  • 2.5mm balanced cable support
  • weight
  • size
  • overall build quality (materials, ease of use)
  • battery life
  • price, and
  • codec support for non-iPhone devices (if that matters)

For me, the sweet spot for commuting purposes is the BTR3, but it might be worth waiting for the BTR5 if you feel strongly about 2.5mm support
 
Aug 2, 2019 at 2:19 PM Post #1,463 of 1,870
My main setup is unbalanced 3.5mm. So balanced is not a factor at this point. My main concerns is size/weight vs sound quality
For an iPhone over bluetooth (AAC) and with unbalanced 2.5mm, I don't think there would be a significant difference between the BTR1K, BTR3, and BTR5 in sound quality.

Personally, I prefer the build quality (despite the corresponding increase in weight/size) of the BTR3 over the BTR1K. I don't think the jump in size/weight for the BTR5 brings a corresponding increase in quality unless you're using balanced cables.
 
Aug 6, 2019 at 4:27 PM Post #1,465 of 1,870
Dear friend,

The headphones could connect to 2.5mm headphone cable as well. So if your budget is enough, and you do not mind waiting a few time more, the BTR5 may be better choice.

Best regards

Do you have any ETA of BTR5 being available on Amazon US?
 
Aug 7, 2019 at 10:38 AM Post #1,467 of 1,870
am I the only one that finds the BTR3 sound lacking in definition?
Compared to the apple 3.5mm dongle it has a much bigger soundstage but sounds congested at the same time. on the apple dac the sound is sharp, almost "cutting" while the BTR3 is way softer and with less instrument separation.
 
Aug 7, 2019 at 3:21 PM Post #1,468 of 1,870
am I the only one that finds the BTR3 sound lacking in definition?
Compared to the apple 3.5mm dongle it has a much bigger soundstage but sounds congested at the same time. on the apple dac the sound is sharp, almost "cutting" while the BTR3 is way softer and with less instrument separation.
Could it be the codecs being used? I use with different devices and sometimes feel it sounds impressive, other times very average - I still haven't got my head around finding which codec is being used, I don't know if it is a developer setting or app setting.
 
Aug 7, 2019 at 4:17 PM Post #1,469 of 1,870
Could it be the codecs being used? I use with different devices and sometimes feel it sounds impressive, other times very average - I still haven't got my head around finding which codec is being used, I don't know if it is a developer setting or app setting.

Im making my comparison using Spotify / Apple music. The codec used is always AAC 256kbps
 
Aug 8, 2019 at 5:29 AM Post #1,470 of 1,870
am I the only one that finds the BTR3 sound lacking in definition?
Compared to the apple 3.5mm dongle it has a much bigger soundstage but sounds congested at the same time. on the apple dac the sound is sharp, almost "cutting" while the BTR3 is way softer and with less instrument separation.
Its the other way round for me with my ipad air.
I still haven't got my head around finding which codec is being used, I don't know if it is a developer setting or app setting.
What? it flashes a different colour for each codec, AAC is very similar to SBC in colour, but if you hit pause when your using AAC your see it gets darker, or you can look in the app, you can also limit the codec used by your hardware in the app.
 
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