[FiiO BTR17/BTR7] True Lossless Bluetooth, Portable Bluetooth DAC and Headphone Amplifier BTR17 Is Officially Released!

[FiiO-Yellow]

On my samsung phone I have to toggle ldac from the bluetooth menu every time. It always defaults to aptx even when I originally connected to LDAC. once I disconnect and reconnect I have to redo this everytime. No issues with btr7

Hi, you can only select the LDAC bluetooth codec in FIIO control app

 

[clastorder]

What are you running on it that requires D-Mode on the go?

It's not about require, it's "more better".

IEMs are not generally hard to drive but having more power at low volumes makes a difference sometimes. I was convinced to bite the BTR17 after listening to a buddy's BTR7, and it's surprising to me that the BTR17 delivers slightly less power than BTR7 when not in desktop mode. Although it's not very fair to do that comparison, since my recent portable squeeze is the Onix XM5 and that thing is a monster with a background black as night and so much power on tap even in medium gain.

BTR17 sounds very neutral across the board and I like it very much with Trailli. I need to check a bunch more IEMs to see if the complaining someone did about it making all IEMs sound similar is accurate.

Then again, I wouldn't have bought this if Fiio had made a better UTWS5 for 2025, so...

 

[clastorder]

Hi, you can only select the LDAC bluetooth codec in FIIO control app

I don't know what you're saying because phone says LDAC, BTR17 displays LDAC, if the LDAC codec isn't actually being used then why display it on the screen?

 

[amery]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amrg.bluetooth_codec_converter

Does the premium version allow automatic changes of playback quality?

 

[FiiO-Yellow]

I don't know what you're saying because phone says LDAC, BTR17 displays LDAC, if the LDAC codec isn't actually being used then why display it on the screen?

Hi, I mean you can try to delete other bluetooth codecs in FIIO control APP as the below pictures. When you disconnect it and re-connect, it will default to LDAC. You dont have to do it everytime.

 

[amery]

Hi, I mean you can try to delete other bluetooth codecs in FIIO control APP as the below pictures. When you disconnect it and re-connect, it will default to LDAC. You dont have to do it everytime.

For me, that leads to SBC being automatically selected instead of LDAC.

 

[OhmsClaw]

It's not about require, it's "more better".

IEMs are not generally hard to drive but having more power at low volumes makes a difference sometimes. I was convinced to bite the BTR17 after listening to a buddy's BTR7, and it's surprising to me that the BTR17 delivers slightly less power than BTR7 when not in desktop mode. Although it's not very fair to do that comparison, since my recent portable squeeze is the Onix XM5 and that thing is a monster with a background black as night and so much power on tap even in medium gain.

BTR17 sounds very neutral across the board and I like it very much with Trailli. I need to check a bunch more IEMs to see if the complaining someone did about it making all IEMs sound similar is accurate.

Then again, I wouldn't have bought this if Fiio had made a better UTWS5 for 2025, so...

But that's now how power on tap works.

In this case its whether or not all the opamps/THX modules in parallel offer any subjective benefit.

If the load isn't drawing the power required, then the power available will never make a difference. That's just how electricity works.
It's why I'll still mess around with D-Mode to see if there's any subjective benefit, but playing music at ear bleeding levels with the volume on 8-11 across two summit-fi IEM's with a volume range of 60 available isn't really the end-all-be-all.

 

[FiiO-Yellow]

For me, that leads to SBC being automatically selected instead of LDAC.

Your smartphone is Pixel 8A, right?

 

[amery]

Your smartphone is Pixel 8A, right?

Yes, Pixel 8A with Android 15. I can switch to LDAC via developer settings. It's also automatically selected the first time it connects after a factory reset.

 

[BS5711]

For me, that leads to SBC being automatically selected instead of LDAC.

I haven't been following this but I would venture a guess that is because your phone is not reliably transmitting LDAC and the devices use SBC instead of nothing. I understand SBC is always active as a fall back on most or all bluetooth devices.

I can mimic the same thing with my BTR7 by turning off all codecs on the BTR7, it will connect via SBC despite that SBC isn't a selectable codec.

 

[OhmsClaw]

For me, that leads to SBC being automatically selected instead of LDAC.

Sometimes I get SBC selected but just double tap the bluetooth icon from drag down. Still less often, and still saves time from scrolling the dev options.

 

[amery]

I haven't been following this but I would venture a guess that is because your phone is not reliably transmitting LDAC and the devices use SBC instead of nothing. I understand SBC is always active as a fall back on most or all bluetooth devices.

I can mimic the same thing with my BTR7 by turning off all codecs on the BTR7, it will connect via SBC despite that SBC isn't a selectable codec.

My BTR15 always chooses LDAC

 

[MrWalkman]

For me, that leads to SBC being automatically selected instead of LDAC.

Yes.

 

[Warrentaye]

Also confirming the issue with LDAC and SBC being shown when LDAC is the only one selected.

 

[Warrentaye]

Hi, you can only select the LDAC bluetooth codec in FIIO control app

HI On samsung phones there is a toggle in bluetooth settings that enables ldac. What I am saying is that even when I select ldac only in the fiio app like others have said. They are getting sbc and not ldac.

This is not my phone but the toggle looks like this. on the BTR 7 I can default to ldac with no issues on the btr17 I have to toggle this on and off every time I connect. only selecting ldac in the app gives sbc and not ldac so there is obviously a bug somewhere.