[FiiO Willson]

can this provide LDAC transmission to a 2014 macbook via usb? I have fiio btr5, very happy with it, but my mac does aptx maximum, I need a better bluetooth transmitter than this. I think it does not but BTA40 or BTA50 will be awesome. Or be able to use another BTR5 or say BTR5K for this, would be great.

LDAC transmitting is not supported when USB input.
If your computer has coaxial output, then it can support LDAC.
But as you would expect, the next product will definitely support

 

[FiiO Willson]

LDAC does NOT support multipoint connections, and no current chipset is. Bandwidth issue is among other reasons.
Should've done better research.

Yes, You are right.

But then I wouldn't expect the solution they have to switch to some other codec that keeps cutting out the sound in "low sound " conditions. And their web site doesn't mention this, just that they support 2 devices and also LDAC. I did try to read as much about it as possible before ordering. It was only in the manual I saw that they said they only support 1 LDAC. They even replied to me and told me its a 'bug', but they just arn't going to fix it any time soon. I'm not sure how I could have know about this problem, without actually trying it. How could I have done 'better research' to find this was going to be a problem and that I would face this 'bug'?

I'm very sorry, I'm not sure if I understood what you meant

Please see my answer to.
1,Our amazon and Aliexpress sales page should have instructions that"The aptX LL/LDAC does not support Bluetooth multipoint pairing in Bluetooth transmitting state"
2, in fact, the rules of BTA30 Bluetooth transmission format is probably like this
a, because there is only one CSR8675, so it can not work in both receive and transmit state, you must choose one of the modes
b, when the BTA30 works in transmit mode, when connected to the headset, he must first communicate with the headset and determine the mode supported by the headset to work properly; if the two headsets work in different modes, then it can only choose one of the lowest mode for transmission.

Must be repeated, aptX LL/LDAC does not support transmitting one to two function, this is the code decision, all the current LDAC transmitting devices should be so (except cell phones), so i think this is Sony's bug, this change should take a longer time.

 

[FiiO Willson]

i've tried maybe 8 different "wireless" IEM / TWS setups and this is sonically the best, above and beyond

Optical > iFi Spdif iPurifier2 + iFi iPower > Coaxial Out > BTA30 + iFi iPower > Fiio BTR5 / Qudelix 5K - LDAC > Cema CS Series 8 Core Short Cable 7N OCC Litz 2.5MM > Fiio FD5

i hear no difference with BTR5 / Qudelix 5K plugged directly to the source vs this

Also i tried a few different higher dBi antennas and the one shown in the pic is the best LDAC range i could get, i get no drops anywhere in my house / backyard

You are really too good!!

We would also like to use higher dBi antenna, but as you know, it takes a lot of compromises, such as cost, certification, appearance, delivery, etc., all of which add up to the current product.

 

[ES_EF]

You are really too good!!

We would also like to use higher dBi antenna, but as you know, it takes a lot of compromises, such as cost, certification, appearance, delivery, etc., all of which add up to the current product.

I find the stock antenna admirable and perfectly good for 90% - 95% of use cases

I believe the upgrade is only needed in scenarios where exceptionally long distances are needed and or houses with lot of interference

I've tried lots of Ebay / Amazon transmitters and BTA30 is worth every penny

 

[FiiO Willson]

I find the stock antenna admirable and perfectly good for 90% - 95% of use cases

I believe the upgrade is only needed in scenarios where exceptionally long distances are needed and or houses with lot of interference

I've tried lots of Ebay / Amazon transmitters and BTA30 is worth every penny

Thank you for your support, trust us, the next Bluetooth product will be even better

 

[Ichos]

i've tried maybe 8 different "wireless" IEM / TWS setups and this is sonically the best, above and beyond

Optical > iFi Spdif iPurifier2 + iFi iPower > Coaxial Out > BTA30 + iFi iPower > Fiio BTR5 / Qudelix 5K - LDAC > Cema CS Series 8 Core Short Cable 7N OCC Litz 2.5MM > Fiio FD5

i hear no difference with BTR5 / Qudelix 5K plugged directly to the source vs this

Also i tried a few different higher dBi antennas and the one shown in the pic is the best LDAC range i could get, i get no drops anywhere in my house / backyard

That's a hell of a wireless setup!

 

[ES_EF]

That's a hell of a wireless setup!

lol that bta30 on wall startled couple of family members

 

[ravdo]

I'm considering to buy BTA30 to use LDAC on PS4 Pro. But I'm still not sure about the latency. I've read some reviews on Amazon, some say it's good and others say it's bad..... I'm not sure who I should believe
Isn't there an official datasheet or something for the actual latency? So far I'm using an Avantree Saturn to use aptX on my PS4, and for me the latency is good enough. So, if BTA30+LDAC to PS4 could give me similar result, I would buy it. Has anyone here tried it? If there's a video to show the latency, that would be great.

Thanks

 

[RobAudio]

Yes, You are right.

I'm very sorry, I'm not sure if I understood what you meant

Please see my answer to.
1,Our amazon and Aliexpress sales page should have instructions that"The aptX LL/LDAC does not support Bluetooth multipoint pairing in Bluetooth transmitting state"
2, in fact, the rules of BTA30 Bluetooth transmission format is probably like this
a, because there is only one CSR8675, so it can not work in both receive and transmit state, you must choose one of the modes
b, when the BTA30 works in transmit mode, when connected to the headset, he must first communicate with the headset and determine the mode supported by the headset to work properly; if the two headsets work in different modes, then it can only choose one of the lowest mode for transmission.

Must be repeated, aptX LL/LDAC does not support transmitting one to two function, this is the code decision, all the current LDAC transmitting devices should be so (except cell phones), so i think this is Sony's bug, this change should take a longer time.

I think we are getting 'off topic' here.

I know it will only do 1 LDAC connection now. BTW, it does NOT say that on your main page (Or that the Optical output will be disabled if you use Optical in, ie making Daisy Chaining not possible): https://www.fiio.com/bta30

Although I think that is not good, that isn't the main problem.

When you connect 2 Sony WH-1000XM4 headphones, it will swap to a lower coded (I'm guessing SBC or AAC, I can't tell which. **Edit: I see that it doesn't support AAC transmitting, so it must be SBC then). That works.

The problem is that the sound cuts out when there are 'low' sound conditions, like when people are talking, when 2 of the head phones are connected.

Or are you saying that the BTA30 just does not support having 2 head phones connected if they are LDAC, even if they can connect at a different codecs like SBC or AAC?

 

[FiiO Willson]

I think we are getting 'off topic' here.

I know it will only do 1 LDAC connection now. BTW, it does NOT say that on your main page (Or that the Optical output will be disabled if you use Optical in, ie making Daisy Chaining not possible): https://www.fiio.com/bta30

Although I think that is not good, that isn't the main problem.

When you connect 2 Sony WH-1000XM4 headphones, it will swap to a lower coded (I'm guessing SBC or AAC, I can't tell which. **Edit: I see that it doesn't support AAC transmitting, so it must be SBC then). That works.

The problem is that the sound cuts out when there are 'low' sound conditions, like when people are talking, when 2 of the head phones are connected.

Or are you saying that the BTA30 just does not support having 2 head phones connected if they are LDAC, even if they can connect at a different codecs like SBC or AAC?

Hi
Please check this
I think this chart should say it all.
It's displayed in a very visible location on Amazon.com .

https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-Wireles...d=1618306724&sprefix=fiio+bta3,aps,362&sr=8-1

If you still have questions, we can communicate again, you can send a private message to ask me

 

[Smash526]

Isn't there an official datasheet or something for the actual latency?

Here, as official as it gets

AptX HD 250ms
SBC 220ms
AAC 120ms
AptX Adaptive 80ms
AptX 70ms
AptX LL 40ms

But you will not have LDAC connecting BTA30 to PS4 Pro with USB, check the official specs or in the posts above.

 

[ravdo]

Here, as official as it gets

AptX HD 250ms
SBC 220ms
AAC 120ms
AptX Adaptive 80ms
AptX 70ms
AptX LL 40ms

But you will not have LDAC connecting BTA30 to PS4 Pro with USB, check the official specs or in the posts above.

Thanks, but what I need is the latency for BTA30's LDAC when used as Bluetooth Transmitter via Optical/Coax. I'm guessing it would be similar to aptX HD? I really need confirmation from people that already tried it
And yes, I already knew that BTA30's LDAC won't work via USB. I will connect using Optical port on PS4.

 

[Smash526]

Thanks, but what I need is the latency for BTA30's LDAC when used as Bluetooth Transmitter via Optical/Coax. I'm guessing it would be similar to aptX HD?

Missed the LDAC, my bad, and your guess is correct, 270-320ms.
But since Sony developed it especially for music, nobody cares about latency with it.
Can try forcing LDAC between BTA30 and the BTR3 and play a few games on the PS4 Pro, but since I just moved to my new home it could take a few days ...

 

[BigZ12]

I just want to add; I love my XM4 connected with LDAC to this little gem!! BTA30 is connected to a HTPC (W10) in my living room, with Tidal Hi-fi.
I also love watching movies with Dolby Access app, and I don't experience lag that bothers me.

One of the best purchases I've made (I came from a Avantree DG60 with AptX HD to the XM3s)

 

[johnston21]

Hopefully the next version will support aptx Adaptive.

Any news on the previously mentioned firmware update?