FiiO 2023 New Product Schedule
Feb 17, 2023 at 1:08 PM Post #48 of 494
Thank you FIIO for the answer that the new FIIO M23 will have the AKM4499EX chip implemented
- this chip is a big leap in Asahi Kasei Microdevices products after a long break caused by a fire.

The new FIIO M23 model will be closer to the price of M11Plus or M15 or M17?
 
Feb 17, 2023 at 8:30 PM Post #50 of 494
Thank you FIIO for the answer that the new FIIO M23 will have the AKM4499EX chip implemented
- this chip is a big leap in Asahi Kasei Microdevices products after a long break caused by a fire.

The new FIIO M23 model will be closer to the price of M11Plus or M15 or M17?
M23 is a new version of M11Plus
 
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Feb 18, 2023 at 9:46 PM Post #51 of 494
the M23?? Geez, why not M12 or something Fiio? You guys upend your product numbering schemes faster than you create them making everything confusing . It's like when the Amp line went from K to A to Q. Sheesh...if the M11 is becoming the M23, but is not better than the M15 or M17, then what's the purpose of this?
I thought the same thing. M11.2 or m12 would work. M23 suggest a higher tier than m15 or m17, which it isn't. And why 23? Theres no m19 or m21.
 
Feb 19, 2023 at 3:10 AM Post #53 of 494
Frankly speaking, the development of portable players in the past two years is a bit stagnant, especially the core audio technology.
@FiiO @WianFiiO Yes portable players are stagnant because nobody seems to be able to do parametric EQ properly, other than Qudelix 5K

It is such a game changer, why can't Fiio take it seriously and do something at least as great as Qudelix 5K
 
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Feb 19, 2023 at 4:42 AM Post #54 of 494
(1) HiFi new portable players preview and existing product information
At the request of the users, we would like to share our new product plan for 2023 here with you, so that you can choose the appropriate products based on your needs.

Before getting to the topic, we would like to briefly explain the general strategy of our portable player product line. From 2020 onwards, FiiO has been shrinking its portable product line. The core reason is that the market has shifted to streaming media, and the market for low-end pure audio players has been greatly affected by USB dongles. Besides, the hardware cost of Android players is increasing. Therefore, shrinkage is inevitable. We still hope that you will support and choose our portable players as usual. After all, portable players have been our stars in the past ten years, which have made a great contribution to the development and growth of the company.

1. M15S, expected to be available in March
Actually, M15S is the model that should be available in the fall of 2022. Due to several changes in the solution for supply chain reasons, the closure of suppliers and our staff for COVID-19, our chase for product excellence, solving RF interference, etc. This led to the completion of trial production until December, so it was late to be available before the Spring Festival. But now, everything is ready. When our suppliers come back to work, production will start. Therefore, it is expected to be released in March.

The M15S is basically a minor revision model of the M15. The main difference is that the processor is changed from Samsung 7872 to Qualcomm 660, the best processor for current Android players, and the DAC is changed from AK4499 to ESS9038PRO due to discontinuation. In addition, the M17 also delegates some technologies to the M15S.

In short, the M15S will be very competitive within 1600 USD.

2. M23, expected to be available in the fall.
Following the latest naming rules, M23 is the replacement model for the M11 Plus.

The M11 Plus was launched in May 2021, and it was revised in January 2022 since the AK4497 DAC was discontinued. If the M23 can be released on schedule in the fall, the replacement cycle will be 2 and a half years. That's quite a long time.

Of course, the M11 Plus is still relatively competitive, and we will also try to improve on the current design, and achieve more new features and new designs. Frankly speaking, the development of portable players in the past two years is a bit stagnant, especially the core audio technology. But just like what we did for the M15S, we will try our best to popularize the technology of some high-end models down to the lower-end ones.

3. M11S
There is no upgrade plan for the M11S in 2023. It should be the only model within 500 USD that features excellent Android core configuration (SoC + RAM + FLASH), and audio configuration (DAC chip, DAC/Amp output power, etc.). That's also a result of us sacrificing some profits.

As for the future, unless the chip price is significantly reduced, which is unlikely currently, we will be less likely to upgrade the M11S. After all, it costs a lot to develop an Android player.
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4. M17
There is no upgrade plan for the M17 for the time being. The M17 or the future upgraded M27 will be our flagship portable players. We can't be 100% sure about the future, but one thing we are sure of is that we won't release a more expensive portable player in at least 2 years. So, if you need it, you can buy it early and enjoy it.

The M17 as the Android portable player coming with the highest output power, the most complete connectors and the most powerful functions, has been warmly welcomed among users since it has been released, and the sales also exceeded our expectations. It is a very successful product that is designed with many interesting and practical functions, such as the enhanced over-ear headphone mode and desktop mode. The M17 has excellent adaptability and can meet consumers' listening needs in various scenarios. Especially when working with over-ear headphones, it has an overwhelming advantage over competing products.
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(2) HiFi headphone DAC/Amps preview and existing product information
(3) HiFi portable DAC/Amps preview and existing product information
(4) USB audio adapters (USB dongles) for mobile phones preview and existing product information
Lose the farce that is "MQA" and I will happily consider FiiO again. Blob Stuart is a worthless shill and I refuse to buy anything that has "MQA" on it because even though I will NEVER use it, I still had to pay for it because a compay fell for his lies and I do NOT want my hard earned money going to that idiot.

MQA? FTN!


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Feb 19, 2023 at 11:30 AM Post #55 of 494
So, now that the M11S/+ are Roon Ready, I almost have to get one.

The thing that's been keeping me from getting a DAP is that I don't want to have to stop using it when the battery dies. Does FiiO offer battery replacement outside the warranty period?
 
Feb 20, 2023 at 3:08 AM Post #57 of 494
(5) Bluetooth DAC/Amps preview and existing product information
In FiiO's history, Bluetooth DAP/Amps were actually a little earlier than compact portable DAC/Amps (USB dongles). They are important devices for many audiophiles who use cell phones to listen to music. Since 2016, FiiO started to develop Bluetooth devices, putting heavy investments in the wireless darkroom, RF instruments and other hardware facilities, Bluetooth antenna as well as software and hardware developers. It is no exaggeration to say that in this market segment, FiiO has become the brand with the most market share and the strongest developing ability in the world.
In 2023, we will not make many improvements in portable Bluetooth DAC/Amps, mainly because the development of Bluetooth technology has been relatively mature. And limited by size, output power and Bluetooth codecs, it is hard to make a big innovation. Here we would like to share our new products and review some of our previous products.
1. BTR15 (New), expected to be available in the fall
The BTR5 is the most successful portable Bluetooth DAC/Amp in the history of FiiO. It has been more than three years since it was released in October 2019. Thanks to the moderate price, exquisite and good-looking appearance, high-end configuration and high output power, it was even difficult to find a rival. Therefore, it was always out of stock.
The popularity of the BTR5 has set a benchmark in main configuration and design for this kind of product: full Bluetooth format support, with a display, both wired DAC and wireless HiFi support, dual DACs, both single-ended and balanced outputs support, an average body/weight.
So, although FiiO released the BTR7 after that, we believe the most classic one is still the BTR5. In 2023, after 4 years since the birth of the BTR5, we will introduce an iterated model of the BTR5. The main reason for this upgrade is that the Qualcomm 8675 has been on the market for too long and Qualcomm was no longer popularizing it, so it may be discontinued. Or, even if it is not discontinued, the lead time may be very long.
The BTR15 is currently under planning, so we don't have many details to share for the time being. But the 2.5+3.5mm output combination will certainly be changed to 3.5+4.4mm following the trend, so it will have a larger body than the BTR5. The Bluetooth chip may be upgraded to the QCC series, and for other features and specifications, we will also strive to make the BTR15 another classic product according to the chip supply and feedback from our early users.
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2. BTR3K (existing model)
The BTR3K is also a classic model: full format support, good performance, warm sound quality, and single-ended and balanced output support. Before the BTR5 came out, it was the main model. Although the BTR5 stole its heat, it doesn't need too many functions and doesn't need to be able to work as a USB dongle if only working as a Bluetooth headphone amp. Overall, the BTR3K is tinier and more affordable.
The Bluetooth DAC/Amp market is still mainly for audiophiles. Currently, the BTR5 is more expensive yet with more sales volumes. Therefore, we are not planning to upgrade the BTR3K in 2023. When the chip is out of stock, it would retire naturally.
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3. BTR7 (existing model)
In the beginning, we had some concerns about the BTR7. Because for FiiO's product lines, we define portable Bluetooth DAC/Amps as small and compact ones to differentiate them from portable DAC/Amps with Bluetooth reception, such as the Q7.
At that time, we were still uncertain whether to make a Bluetooth DAC/Amp that is bigger, significantly heavier and more expensive than the BTR5. In the end, we followed the principle of "practice makes perfect".
The BTR7 has exceeded our expectations. This should owe to its significantly higher output power than those mobile-powered dongles, plus the higher resolution display, MQA support, and the more popular 4.4mm balanced headphone output.
As a result, the BTR7 not only extends the product line, but also manages to become the hottest-selling high-end Bluetooth DAC/Amp on the market.
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Feb 20, 2023 at 3:08 AM Post #58 of 494
When will we be able read about these and the BTR line up - BTR15? BTR4? Saw some post about this on a Japanese forum but Google translate did not any favors.

Dear friend,

This chapter is updated today.

Best regards
 
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Feb 20, 2023 at 3:09 AM Post #59 of 494
So, now that the M11S/+ are Roon Ready, I almost have to get one.

The thing that's been keeping me from getting a DAP is that I don't want to have to stop using it when the battery dies. Does FiiO offer battery replacement outside the warranty period?
Dear friend,

Yes.
And you may check whether the R7 will meet your need instead:
https://www.fiio.com/r7

Best regards
 
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