[connieflyer]

UntilThen perhaps this won't keep you up at night......

 

[UntilThen]

@pctazhp that is a great effort and can easily go up in the formal review for Elise. Thanks for taking the time to post a lengthy and descriptive  comparisons between the Valhalla 2 and Elise. 
 
In the absence of a thumps up icon, this will do. 

 

[UntilThen]

  UntilThen perhaps this won't keep you up at night......

@hypnos1 loves Peter, Paul and Mary. Thanks for sharing. 

 

[UntilThen]

It's back to basics and I love this tubes combination. Sweet, clear, detail and vibrant sound that will keep you up all night long. 

 
With most tubes combination, Elise's sonic signature is clearly fast transient response, articulate, dynamic, punchy and impeccable pace, rhythm and timing. It's an exciting sound worthy of any TOTL headphones.
 

 

[mordy]

Hi pct,
 
Thank you for a very insightful and thoughtful review. I too, have decided that the EL3N are the ones to stay in the driver's seat at the exclusion of other tubes I have.
 
I use 4 x 6BL7 for power tubes, and this combination is addictive - I spend much more time listening than ever before, without any listening fatigue.
 
I do realize that my listening experience may be different than many others on this forum since I use the Elise as a preamp, listening through speakers, and not headphones. YMMV.....
 
In terms of cost my wonderful system (Elise, tubes, adapters, two speakers + powered subwoofer) cost around $1000, but then I bought the Elise at the introductory price. From what I understand, the price has increased $200 since then. If you factor in all the trial and error tubes and a laptop for storing music, the price goes up considerably.....
 
In addition to the listening pleasure, I find the voyage of discovering new tubes and tube combinations fascinating. I am thinking of trying JV's setup with 6 x 6BL7 tubes since he reports that he gets very good results with driver tubes that fall short with 4 x 6BL7.
 
Or, I could stop with what I have since it leaves me very happy. But......

 

[hpamdr]

  @hypnos1 loves Peter, Paul and Mary. Thanks for sharing. 

If you can get this SACD album, it is wonderful : "Peter, Paul & Mary: Peter, Paul & Mary (Hybrid-SACD) (Limited Numbered Edition)"
 

 

[UntilThen]

I have a few Hybrid-SACD but not of Peter, Paul & Mary. However I'm having so much fun going from tubes to tubes. Haven't heard this combo for a while but it makes my eye balls grow bigger
 
A wall of sound, front row seat, an impactful bass. Love the 6N7G and 6A6 sound. I'm even getting to love my HD650 again. You hear me Arie? 

 
Happy listening!

 
 

 

[hpamdr]

  A wall of sound, front row seat, an impactful bass. Love the 6N7G and 6A6 sound. I'm even getting to love my HD650 again. You hear me Arie? 

 
6A6 and 6N7G are in fact very similar for a same brand except the base and should sound the same. With HD650, you can even use them as output tube running a quad of 6A6 as driver and 6N7G as power... But only with medium-z cans like HD600.

 

[pctazhp]

Thanks @UntilThen. I'll be pretty busy for the next 2 or 3 weeks. And I'd really like to hear both amps with the HD800S before I post the review. In the meantime seems like the Feliks boys are doing just fine without the benefit of my review)))
 
And also thanks to you @mordy. I have 4 6BL7s, but will have to order the dual adapters.
 
@connieflyer. Put me down as a big Peter, Paul and Mary fan. But, oh my. They look so old 

 

[UntilThen]

Yes they are indeed similar in sound because I have both Visseaux & Fivre 6N7G and 6A6. Quad 6A6 as drivers? !!! I have enough 6A6 to do that. I have 2 Fivre and 5 NU 6A6 but where will I get the adapters. What will it sound like? I'm going nuts with the combinations now. 

 
 
2xVisseaux6A6 and 2xFivre6A6 as drivers and 2xVisseaux6N7G and 2xFivre6N7G as powers = 6.4A  

 Don't even make me do this.

 

[hpamdr]

  Yes they are indeed similar in sound because I have both Visseaux & Fivre 6N7G and 6A6. Quad 6A6 as drivers? !!! I have enough 6A6 to do that. I have 2 Fivre and 5 NU 6A6 but where will I get the adapters. What will it sound like? I'm going nuts with the combinations now. 

If you have dual 6BL7 -> 6AS7 you can use after regular one to one adapter. (This is not the best but you can get an idea )

 

[UntilThen]

  If you have dual 6BL7 -> 6AS7 you can use after regular one to one adapter. (This is not the best but you can get an idea )

4 big white marshmallows. My Elise will look like a big vanilla cake. 

 

[hpamdr]

With colored shrink tubing, you can adapt color to what you wear
Red for EL3N.. Black for 6A6, ......

 

[UntilThen]

You sure this will work? 

 
2xVisseaux6A6 as drivers and 4x6N7G as power tubes.
 

 

[UntilThen]

How's this?