boatheelmusic
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elwappo, any feedback for us on your DC-1?
elwappo, any feedback for us on your DC-1?
I wonder why the headphone amp didn't do well with the K712's. I've never heard the Emotiva Stealth DC-1, but I had thought about picking one up for use at work and selling off one of my older DAC's that don't have a built in headphone amp or preamp. I thought I read/or heard that the Emo Stealth DC-1 uses a headphone circuit that's very similar (BUF-634 and op-amp) to the one used in Benchmark's DAC's which have a pretty good reputation. Possibly I was misinformed...
To be fair, I found the Benchmark to have a disappointing headamp built in. My comparison was with the Matrix M-stage which is a clone of the Lehmann BCL, which runs for $1k. I think it's an okay amplifier, and sounds better than any fiio product. It does sound good for less demanding headphones, and does okay with my K712. But, I've ran through a lot of amplifiers for my Q701/K712, and I think the M-stage is about as good as it gets for them.
To be fair, I found the Benchmark to have a disappointing headamp built in. My comparison was with the Matrix M-stage which is a clone of the Lehmann BCL, which runs for $1k. I think it's an okay amplifier, and sounds better than any fiio product. It does sound good for less demanding headphones, and does okay with my K712. But, I've ran through a lot of amplifiers for my Q701/K712, and I think the M-stage is about as good as it gets for them.
I'm not sure how much the Q701/K712's differ from the K701's but have you tried them with the Lyr? I always loved the midrange and treble of the K701's, but it wasn't until I bought the Lyr that finally heard them sound really dynamic with a good bit more bottom end...I was truly surprised how much the Lyr helped.
I've got a two year old DAC1 USB (not even hooked up right now) and it did fine driving Grado's and IEM's but I've never tried it with my HE-400 or 500's...it may well be lacking the juice to get the job done. Don't know.
The Q701/K701/K702/K712 all share the same drivers, it's just the padding that's different.
I did like the Lyr, but thought it was only so-so when price is factored in. Actually I think the Vali is pretty stellar with the Q701.
I've never heard the Vali, my oldest son wants one so I'm sure I'll get the chance before too long. The K701's seemed to like the power that the Lyr had on tap but of course then the DAC you use with it plays a big part too. I was hoping that the hp amp in the Stealth DC-1 was really nice as I'd like to sell a couple DAC's and have two of my setups (not my main system) running with a DAC that has a built in amp to save some space. I could just pickup a Bifrost Uber and stack one of the amps on top of it. Any idea how the Stealth DC-1's DAC compares to the Uber Bifrost?...about the same amount of money.
I have to assume that the DC-1 is at the very least a pretty nice DAC, even lower cost DAC's have gotten so good in the past couple years that its amazing. I back in the early 90's I paid around $1200 for a Monarchy Audio 22A DAC and a good bit more for a CD transport. Audio gear has come a LONG WAYS since then and great sounding gear has become SO much less expensive. These are certainly great/fun/exciting times to be a music lover.
I'm just getting started in the world of portable audio...as that's exactly what I need, yet another hobby to help drain my bank account.
Oh well, ya only live once. (as far as I know...YMMV)
I'm looking to upgrade from the DC-1. Problem is most DACs sound very similar so I do not think it is worth spending much more for subtle changes. Has anyone lived with DACs (preferably with DSD capability) that would blow the Emotiva out of the water?