[amosamayo]

I tried the Symphonium helios just now too haha, but i felt the highs were richer on the Diva, which made me gravitate towards the Diva, especially in the upper mid area

 

[AoiMomo]

I tried the Symphonium helios just now too haha, but i felt the highs were richer on the Diva, which made me gravitate towards the Diva, especially in the upper mid area

Grab the one you like, the Diva is a pretty interesting set, the vocals are really nice but with the sacrifice of it not sounding too natural, I noticed that it seems to shorten echos and reverbs to achieve that clear cut sound it has in the vocal range. It definitely is a fun set for studio recorded music. Maybe not as good for live music, but depending on your music preference that might not even be an issue.

The other good thing for Diva is that it seems to not be too thin sounding while achieving excellent clarity, which some other treble heavy IEMs might have trouble with. Perhaps that's the reason you felt that the Diva sounded better?

 

[amosamayo]

@AoiMomo Yeah, i felt that the Diva had impressive clarity, which stood out to me among the best IEMs that i have tried. If only it had lesser bass..

 

[AoiMomo]

@AoiMomo Yeah, i felt that the Diva had impressive clarity, which stood out to me among the best IEMs that i have tried. If only it had lesser bass..

Personally I felt the low bass switch (2023 version) actually brought the bass down quite a bit to the point where I felt like I missed it somewhat, though I do like a balanced bass vs thin, was it still too bassy for you even at the lowest bass switch?

 

[squadard]

Anyone tried the original and the 23 version side by side? I got the new one and it sounds quite distinctly different than what I remember the original sounded like.

 

[AoiMomo]

Anyone tried the original and the 23 version side by side? I got the new one and it sounds quite distinctly different than what I remember the original sounded like.

I think the tuning on the 2023 per switches are bit different from the original, and the wiring inside were supposedly upgraded?

 

[squadard]

For the tuning they sound practically the same aside from the sharper dip in the mid treble on the original which gives the new one more stick impact, but intangibles are noticeably weaker on the new one.

 

[Smirk 24]

Personally I felt the low bass switch (2023 version) actually brought the bass down quite a bit to the point where I felt like I missed it somewhat, though I do like a balanced bass vs thin, was it still too bassy for you even at the lowest bass switch?

I feel the same way. The low-bass switch makes me miss the bass a little bit but there are use cases for it when I want the vocals, and only the vocals highlighted.

 

[Smirk 24]

Anyone tried the original and the 23 version side by side? I got the new one and it sounds quite distinctly different than what I remember the original sounded like.

I’ve heard people prefer the older Diva as well. I’ve only heard/own the 2023 version. What intangibles do you think are missing on the newer iteration?

 

[squadard]

The most apparent one for me is in the bass. The original had better bass decay and slam, even in the mid setting, which I feel is somewhat lacking in the new one. The OG also had a peak in the upper treble which sounded more spacious in staging. The technical capabilities remain somewhat on par but the bass on the new one really hampers its sense of dynamics for me.

 

[Not Catto]

I’ve heard people prefer the older Diva as well. I’ve only heard/own the 2023 version. What intangibles do you think are missing on the newer iteration?

Owning 21 version before and now 23. I can say 21 bass is slightly better but 23 has better cymbal/trebul

 

[squadard]

Owning 21 version before and now 23. I can say 21 bass is slightly better but 23 has better cymbal/trebul

Really? What’s the reason for the switch? I’m kind of sad I didn’t plonk down the money right then and there during my demo sessions. Zeppelin & co was still stocking them when I was in Singapore at the start of the year.

 

[amosamayo]

Personally I felt the low bass switch (2023 version) actually brought the bass down quite a bit to the point where I felt like I missed it somewhat, though I do like a balanced bass vs thin, was it still too bassy for you even at the lowest bass switch?

I feel the same way. The low-bass switch makes me miss the bass a little bit but there are use cases for it when I want the vocals, and only the vocals highlighted.

Yeah the bass is still a little too thumpy for my tastes, even at lowest bass setting. Personally, I'd like as low bass as possible, to bring out more clarity in the upper mids..

 

[galthepal]

Has anyone found a place that sell cable alternatives? The Diva cable is def high quality but I'm finding it too thick and stiff for my liking and would like something softer around my ears. Can't seem to find anything googling it.

 

[AoiMomo]

Has anyone found a place that sell cable alternatives? The Diva cable is def high quality but I'm finding it too thick and stiff for my liking and would like something softer around my ears. Can't seem to find anything googling it.

As the Diva uses Pentaconn connection, it's actually extremely elusive right now for aftermarket cable as far as I could tell. The only one I found was from the actual Pentaconn website itself, you can find the 2.5mm balanced cable and 3.5mm SE cable here, but honestly they look abuot as thick as the one that comes with the DIVA so if the issue is softness I dunno how much this will help you... The ones I am linking are their sterling silver cable, if you browse around there's also a silver plated OFC cable, the quality I have no idea because I've never tried before...


https://pentaconnglobal.com/products/NBB1-12-101-12/21 (2.5mm balanced, sterling silver cable)

https://pentaconnglobal.com/products/NBB1-13-101-12/31 (3.5mm SE, sterling silver cable)