vladzakhar
1000+ Head-Fier
I have a question for you guys. Is sm64 smaller when w4 or about the same size. W4 is little big for my ears.
Oh if you want more mids, then the v2 is the thing you should go for
If you want to beat 535 on the mid (nothing but the mid), you will need TG334. The Sm64 v1 or 2 is not going to cut it. The mid is Shure 535 greatest strength and that's is why they sell like hot cakes from the 500 series onwards.. For a headphone equivalent that could beat the Shure 535 on the mid will be the ATH W3000ANV. If you love Shure 535 type of tonality the TG334 or ATH W3000ANV will floor you completely. SM64 is not a mid eccentric phone. IMO
With my portable sources ( and various software players and tips), I found the SM64 to be lean and less engaging in the mid vocal region than my standard edition 535. The SM64 has punchier (and slightly cleaner) mid-bass and more aggressive highs (though not much more with isolating tips). Sub-bass and soundstage were about equal.
I was afraid I wouldn't find better midrange without going to the very top of the universal IEM market. If the TG334 had a 2.5mm nozzle, I would have ordered one months ago. I have one earphone with a huge nozzle like the TG334 and it sat in its box for years because of it. Oh well.....
I have a question for you guys. Is sm64 smaller when w4 or about the same size. W4 is little big for my ears.
Sure thanks!
If you like the V1 already, I suggest you keep it as they don't make them anymore. If you swap and regret, you will have a hard time getting the V1 back. The V1 is really fine and unique for what it does, its more of a EX1000 type than TG334, the relax airy type. The V2 is moving towards the TG334 path, a darker and smoother presentation that is a little forward.
To get some perspective on relative terms, here's how I see (in general) and IMO;
If you like the Sony EX1000, and love the Denon D5/7000, then V1 is the one for you. Bass as deep as you want to go (almost as deep as TH900 - 90% there) it lacks the final deep bass bounce of the Denon line, incredible sound stage (2nd only to Ex1000 - 95% there) with very nice sparkle at the top. This kind of tonality will have a slight recess in the mid (similar to Denon and TH900), if you can get pass that, then the V1 is the one for you. The TH900 is the ultimate reference for this kind of sound.
If you like the Shure 535 and TG334, then V2 is your kind of IEM. The V2 has much more bass than Shure 535 and quantity almost at the level of TG334 though lacking some detail and texture of TG334.It also has more treble energy and wider soundstage than both of these IEM. You must also like the boosted mid bass than sub bass, then you will like the V2. The HD650 and LCD-3 is the ultimate reference for this kind of sound.
I also think if you put on comply foam, the brightness will probably be on par with V2 on silicon tip (V1 still has more treble though), but the bass is a different story altogether.
EDIT - The above differences is more like an audiophile difference, which means both v1 and v2 still share the same sound signature, I just did a zoom in differences to get a clearer pespective.
I would still choose the v1 as i absoultely love the treble sparkle. The v2 is noticeable warmer but not by very much but enough to loose the sss but details are still well preserved. The thing about v2 is it lost that crystal clear sparkle in v1
Are u able to do an a/b comparison at Jaben? if not try, switch the v1 with comply foam and turn the brightness about 10-15% down at frequency 16k using poweramp, it will sound similar like that on the treble.
I'm more and more thinking that my upgraded v2 are kind of special...I don't hear a change in the soundstage or separation at all. The bass is only slightly diffrent (a bit more forward but punchy as on the first day), the mids are like rudi said, but again, the highs only lost their super sssssssssss (if you know what I mean) that made listening to Charles Toliver, Miles Davis etc. an unbearable experience. Maybe I'm just allergic to 16khz frequencys or whatever, but I still enjoy the great overall sparkly highs of the v2.
That's just my opinion. I also think that Earsonics might have panicked a little bit. Maybe it would have been a better decision to offer a ehhhh "fun-edition" additional to the v1? No idea if this would be that easy from a business standpoint
I love my v2 and I hope I will learn to love them even more when I get my Fiio X3 in the near future
Cool, I am glad you resolved it by A/B comparison. Seems like we have the same take on the differences between V1 and V2 and the same tonality preference hahaha..
Anyway I bought the Twag v3 for SM64 V1. The wire has some loose connection on the left side so I bought this to go with it. I shower too much love already on my SM64.
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Looking at the comparison I somehow get the feeling V1 was the original vision for the product, but after some negative feedback they panicked/decided to play it safe and gravitate towards a more mainstream friendly tuning. In other words the original vision was compromised a bit... The SM64 is still an IEM I´ll be considering though. There´s just not enough reviews so far.