[Bigmouth]

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Originally Posted by olblueyez /img/forum/go_quote.gif Can you use the onboard sound instead of your Sound Blaster?

The onboard sound always resample 44.1 kHz to 48 kHz, so it's not bit perfect anyway. It doesn't have support for 24 bit/96 kHz audio neither.

 

[Maxvla]

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Originally Posted by olblueyez /img/forum/go_quote.gif EDIT: I reduced the size of my ASIO4ALL buffer to 196 for both Optical and USB and noticed substantial improvement in sound quality. Better bass impact, clarity, and focus. Runs fine without any glitches, I can run Auslogics Speedboost 1 Click (Cleaner, Defrag, Blah Blah) when listening to music no problem. I also reduced the size of my Foobar output buffer to 500ms.

I have my foobar output at 100ms and my ASIO at 32ms. No problems on my 3 year old intel core 2 duo 2.13ghz 2gb ram machine. I haven't noticed any improvements in sound compared to 500/196, these settings were merely defaulted in my setup.

 

[Dominat0r]

Im trying to use WASAPI.DLL and im having issues.

It plays, can hear music...but it cracks up terribly and kinda sounds like static....

However, ASIO4ALL works flawlessly....i kinda wanted to remove the ASIO4ALL for WASAPI....

Any thoughts? Im using the newest foobar...DAC is from my Lyrix total pro.


EDIT---figured it out, had to turn buffer size down.

 

[olblueyez]

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Originally Posted by HighLife /img/forum/go_quote.gif Im trying to use WASAPI.DLL and im having issues. It plays, can hear music...but it cracks up terribly and kinda sounds like static.... However, ASIO4ALL works flawlessly....i kinda wanted to remove the ASIO4ALL for WASAPI.... Any thoughts? Im using the newest foobar...DAC is from my Lyrix total pro. EDIT---figured it out, had to turn buffer size down.

Try reducing the buffer to <1000 and see what happens, I need to put that in the post, thanks.

 

[Dominat0r]

ya, that was it, i had it set high when i was using ASIO4ALL...

i have removed it from my system and now currently listening using foobar 9.6.2 and 1.2 WASAPI. I have the latency set to 500.

I guess my DAC is only able to use 16bit though, i tried using 24bit and it keeps giving me a error.

 

[olblueyez]

Glad its working for you.

 

[mudhole]

I never know there are so many function and advantage of fb2000 until I read this thread.
My ibass D1 is on the way. I have to learn a lot before it arrival.

Thanks and studying.

 

[olblueyez]

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Originally Posted by mudhole /img/forum/go_quote.gif I never know there are so many function and advantage of fb2000 until I read this thread. Thanks and studying.

Feel free if you have any questions.

 

[m0ofassa]

few questions for olblueeyez... Why do you have replaygain options turned off in the pictorial? They dont affect anything unless they exist in the metadata of files, and can be useful for making particularly loud/quiet albums more balanced (especially important for loud albums imho). Personally I use album source and apply gain.
[size=xx-small]Secondly, why do you recomend all volumes at 100? My general experience is that I have everything at max except the thing that functions last (EQ or foobar in my case depending on location), otherwise I find the sound to be at least 25 db too loud (currently my foobar at this station is on -40.2 db...).[/size] solved this one myself i think - because you are talking about digital outs where as I am currently using an analog.

Thirdly can you source that Crossfader DSP?
EDIT: oh and finally does wasapi/asio4all have any benefits over kernel streaming (in vista)?
thanks in advance.

 

[svarreby]

Bit-perfect hell

I am currently using Vista x64/SP1 with a ESI Juli@ PCI card and I am having HUGE problems!

There's no "Virtual Device" sub-menu under foobar -> Playback -> Output.
Why doesn't foobar "recognize" the "foo_out_wasapi.dll"?

If anyone has a clue as to what has failed, please reply 'cause this is getting on my nervs

PS! I have a 2-channel analog connection to my analog 2-channel receiver

 

[olblueyez]

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Originally Posted by m0ofassa /img/forum/go_quote.gif few questions for olblueeyez... Why do you have replaygain options turned off in the pictorial? They dont affect anything unless they exist in the metadata of files, and can be useful for making particularly loud/quiet albums more balanced (especially important for loud albums imho). Personally I use album source and apply gain. [size=xx-small]Secondly, why do you recomend all volumes at 100? My general experience is that I have everything at max except the thing that functions last (EQ or foobar in my case depending on location), otherwise I find the sound to be at least 25 db too loud (currently my foobar at this station is on -40.2 db...).[/size] solved this one myself i think - because you are talking about digital outs where as I am currently using an analog. Thirdly can you source that Crossfader DSP? EDIT: oh and finally does wasapi/asio4all have any benefits over kernel streaming (in vista)? thanks in advance.

1. Wasn't sure if this was still considered bit perfect, I would say if you don't hear a drop in sound quality then by all means use it.
2. Reducing volume in the digital domain can ruin your ability to run bit perfect.
3. Foobar2000:Components 0.9 - Hydrogenaudio Knowledgebase Listed under DSP. there are many written by people, I would say if you really want to use crossfeed then try a few and see which one you like best. This will not be bit perfect, I felt like the sound quality was reduced to a point where I didn't want to use it but you know what they say about opinions.
4. I have tried to hear a difference between WASAPI and ASIO on my Vista computer and to be honest I cant seem to pin a blue ribbon on either, I'm of the opinion that this is a good thing since there shouldn't be a difference. Personally I use ASIO because I can set it up to output both USB and OPTICAL at the same time and then I can have my system sounds set to USB and listen to Foobar on optical. That way when I'm surfing I can turn off Furbar and switch to USB when I want to hear something on the web. I haven't spent any time with KS as I like ASIO and or WASAPI, I found some info that is pertinent to your question though. Foobar2000:Components 0.9/Kernel Streaming Output (foo out ks) - Hydrogenaudio Knowledgebase

 

[olblueyez]

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Originally Posted by svarreby /img/forum/go_quote.gif Bit-perfect hell I am currently using Vista x64/SP1 with a ESI Juli@ PCI card and I am having HUGE problems! There's no "Virtual Device" sub-menu under foobar -> Playback -> Output. Why doesn't foobar "recognize" the "foo_out_wasapi.dll"? If anyone has a clue as to what has failed, please reply 'cause this is getting on my nervs PS! I have a 2-channel analog connection to my analog 2-channel receiver

Your computer has an "Analog" connection to your receiver, and your headphones are pluged into your receiver, or an amp that is pluged into your receiver?

 

[svarreby]

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Originally Posted by olblueyez /img/forum/go_quote.gif Your computer has an "Analog" connection to your receiver, and your headphones are pluged into your receiver, or an amp that is pluged into your receiver?

I'm not using S/PDIF .. I use analog connection from Juli@ to my receiver. I don't have any headphones

 

[olblueyez]

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Originally Posted by svarreby /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm not using S/PDIF .. I use analog connection from Juli@ to my receiver. I don't have any headphones

Bit perfect is for a digital connection. But you can still use Foobar.

 

[m0ofassa]

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Originally Posted by olblueyez /img/forum/go_quote.gif Bit perfect is for a digital connection. But you can still use Foobar.

personally, i feel that analog outs sound sonically better as well with wasapi/whatever enabled (although I think my hardware does the 'bit perfect' out to the analog anyway).

sure am a sucker for that placebo.
edit: though flicking back and forth between them, theres a SIGNIFICANT reduction in system noise (its virtually none now) by doing this.