DX320MAX Ti The musical event worth the wait. ROHM X 4. !! NEW Firmware: 2.03 !!

May 26, 2023 at 6:24 AM Post #571 of 1,736
I know, I have been following up to when I had to leave to reach High End Munich, and I came back now, looking to continue the search :)
Hi George, did you have a chance to listen to the Lotoo Mjolnir while there? If so, any comparative impressions with the 320Max (with the caveat that the Mjolnir is still in pre-production version)?
 
May 26, 2023 at 1:36 PM Post #575 of 1,736
May 26, 2023 at 1:40 PM Post #576 of 1,736
Very nice ! I too do agree that the 320Max is setting a new benchmark for portable gears. It is redefining portable high performances standards
For me it has closed the gap and I find none, with the better desktop dacs on the market and a couple of mid tier that I compared it to, which are good, but they weren't as good at separation and layering. This is a miniature desktop capable but portable and reaches the heights of some very expensive stuff (I mean much more than what the DX320MAX costs). I am surprised and it is an achievement I didn't think possible. And a very good battery life to boot!
 
May 26, 2023 at 1:47 PM Post #577 of 1,736
For me it has closed the gap and I find none, with the better desktop dacs on the market and a couple of mid tier that I compared it to, which are good, but they weren't as good at separation and layering. This is a miniature desktop capable but portable and reaches the heights of some very expensive stuff (I mean much more than what the DX320MAX costs). I am surprised and it is an achievement I didn't think possible. And a very good battery life to boot!
Completely agreed here as well.
 
May 26, 2023 at 4:38 PM Post #580 of 1,736
Can the max be plugged in to charging while burning in? I have been charging to 90-100%, then running it on battery for burn in.
And I'm getting 8-9 hrs. play time with flac (about 20% hi res, the rest is std res) on an SD card, no wifi, no BT, on android before the digital battery gets down to 20%. Is that about right?
 
May 26, 2023 at 4:42 PM Post #581 of 1,736
Can the max be plugged in to charging while burning in? I have been charging to 90-100%, then running it on battery for burn in.
And I'm getting 8-9 hrs. play time with flac (about 20% hi res, the rest is std res) on an SD card, no wifi, no BT, on android before the digital battery gets down to 20%. Is that about right?
Yes. I only run the battery down once to form it but done over and over only shortens the life of the battery since it has X amount of cycles. Better to use standard resolution, normal listen levels and use the charger.

Many sites say a Li poly battery is good for around 500 full cycles and 3 to 5 years. I have some that are over 10 years old and still hold a good charger even after not being charged for 2 years. It is really variable.
 
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May 26, 2023 at 5:36 PM Post #582 of 1,736
Hi George, did you have a chance to listen to the Lotoo Mjolnir while there? If so, any comparative impressions with the 320Max (with the caveat that the Mjolnir is still in pre-production version)?

Hii, yes, I did listen to it. From what I can understand, Mjolnir may still suffer some changes, so all notes may not be quite that relevant. There are just 2 pieces in existance so far, both were present at High-End Munich.

Given the noise at the show, I wouldn't trust my ears to accurately describe the sound, but what I did hear was impressive dynamics, good weight for each musical note and very low disotrtion. I did not have anything on me that was hard enough to drive to push either to the max limit, the hardest to drive headphone on the table there was DCA Stealth, and both DX320 MAX TI and Mjolnir are fully able to drive it to the max without struggle.

The design is very different, DX320 MAX TI is almost a traditional DAP, Mjolnir is more like... a full sized DAC/AMP with a display. Much heavier. Comes with its own bag case thingy, DX320 MAX TI can be pocketed.

Can the max be plugged in to charging while burning in? I have been charging to 90-100%, then running it on battery for burn in.
And I'm getting 8-9 hrs. play time with flac (about 20% hi res, the rest is std res) on an SD card, no wifi, no BT, on android before the digital battery gets down to 20%. Is that about right?

That sounds about right.

I am playing mainly Flac and Hi Res files, volume half to 3/4, Gain IV, Max DAC mode, and I get around 8 - 9 hours right now. I think for me it will still take a few more cycles before the battery life stabilizes.

Yes. I only run the battery down once to form it but done over and over only shortens the life of the battery since it has X amount of cycles. Better to use standard resolution, normal listen levels and use the charger.

Many sites say a Li poly battery is good for around 500 full cycles and 3 to 5 years. I have some that are over 10 years old and still hold a good charger even after not being charged for 2 years. It is really variable.

Friendo, with iBasso, no need to worry about battery health and lifespan.

DX320 MAX TI is a device that costs 3500 USD, a battery cost 100 USD, DX320 MAX TI has screws on the back, and the battery takes less than 3 minutes to replace :)

I will try to take some dissassembly photos to make a walktrhough of the process.
 
May 26, 2023 at 6:24 PM Post #583 of 1,736
Hii, yes, I did listen to it. From what I can understand, Mjolnir may still suffer some changes, so all notes may not be quite that relevant. There are just 2 pieces in existance so far, both were present at High-End Munich.

Given the noise at the show, I wouldn't trust my ears to accurately describe the sound, but what I did hear was impressive dynamics, good weight for each musical note and very low disotrtion. I did not have anything on me that was hard enough to drive to push either to the max limit, the hardest to drive headphone on the table there was DCA Stealth, and both DX320 MAX TI and Mjolnir are fully able to drive it to the max without struggle.

The design is very different, DX320 MAX TI is almost a traditional DAP, Mjolnir is more like... a full sized DAC/AMP with a display. Much heavier. Comes with its own bag case thingy, DX320 MAX TI can be pocketed.
Many thanks for taking the trouble to reply, George, appreciate it. True, i've heard it may start shipping out towards mid to end of summer, but obviously production for such high-end devices might take even longer given the quality control issues involved. In any case, I guess I'll have to wait till it enters production phase and we can have final impressions. Given that one DAP has a quad array of DACS and the other a single DAP, I'll also be interested in people assessing Mjolnir's implementation, where I figure weight must be laid. If I don't like what people are saying, it's good to know the DX320 Max gets thumbs up so far and there'll be time for more and detailed reviews. Weight and bulkiness don't phase me, I was never one for pocketing things anyway. I use small backpacks to hide a DAP in when going out for hiking or even doing chores in the house.
 
May 26, 2023 at 6:57 PM Post #584 of 1,736
Many thanks for taking the trouble to reply, George, appreciate it. True, i've heard it may start shipping out towards mid to end of summer, but obviously production for such high-end devices might take even longer given the quality control issues involved. In any case, I guess I'll have to wait till it enters production phase and we can have final impressions. Given that one DAP has a quad array of DACS and the other a single DAP, I'll also be interested in people assessing Mjolnir's implementation, where I figure weight must be laid. If I don't like what people are saying, it's good to know the DX320 Max gets thumbs up so far and there'll be time for more and detailed reviews. Weight and bulkiness don't phase me, I was never one for pocketing things anyway. I use small backpacks to hide a DAP in when going out for hiking or even doing chores in the house.

I typically use a side bag to carry a DAP too... I would happily take DX320 MAX TI. But this is my limit.

I tried taking Astell CA1000T portably, and it didn't work, even with a large camera bag, it was cumbersome. Mjolnir is even larger

The sound... we will need to see, Mjolnir was not final from what I understood from Lotoo, it may be better than at the show.

Currently, my two favorite DAPs are CA1000T and DX320 MAX TI, sonically they are super good. CA1000T is, ironically, more neutral, has more treble sparkle, DX320MAX TI is warmer, has more bass impact, more punch in the lows, smoother treble. Tested this with multiple headphones, both taken to max ability, max drive power, max gain, max dac quality.
 
May 26, 2023 at 9:57 PM Post #585 of 1,736
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I will try to take some dissassembly photos to make a walktrhough of the process.

I can't find the post where I shared it already, so reposting those pictures.

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