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Aug 24, 2024 at 4:09 PM Post #1,291 of 1,670
I'm not one that necessarily subscribes to loyally following one chip or technology over another and making that a primary decision factor. IMO it all comes down to the implementation and further, ultimately how it sounds to me.
 
Aug 24, 2024 at 4:38 PM Post #1,292 of 1,670
Thank you both very much! The whole point, apparently, is that I am switching from the ESS 9068AS DAC to the CS43198 or CS43131 DACs and I am afraid of being disappointed. Although I used to have a player with a CS4398 DAC. And I am wondering, is the CS43198 really a flagship or some kind of entry-level? It even has only 256 DSD, not 512. My headphones are Ananda Nano
In my opinion we can't judge sound performance just by the chip being used. CS43198 is an entry level chip but DX260 has 8 of them !! FYI, I still own a 10 years old headphone amp which uses PCM1795 DAC chip and it sounds excellent (that is still my most preferred DAC + headphone amp).

DX260's performance is definitely not entry level, it is one of the best in mid level. As I said earlier, most of the "top" level performers have some kind of colouration, e.g. Sony WM1ZM2 - I wouldn't say they 'sound' better than DX260 in general, but if you enjoy that tuning then it could be a reason to go "up" further.
 
Aug 24, 2024 at 4:47 PM Post #1,293 of 1,670
Thank you both very much! The whole point, apparently, is that I am switching from the ESS 9068AS DAC to the CS43198 or CS43131 DACs and I am afraid of being disappointed. Although I used to have a player with a CS4398 DAC. And I am wondering, is the CS43198 really a flagship or some kind of entry-level? It even has only 256 DSD, not 512. My headphones are Ananda Nano

I don't own Ananda Nano (for Hifiman I only have Arya Stealth). Look at the spec, both headphones have 94 db sensitivity at 14 and 32 ohm respectively, so Ananda Nao should be easier to drive. FYI, with DX260, I only need to set volume to 60-70% at low gain (with 4.4mm balance) with satisfactory volume level and dynamics.
 
Aug 24, 2024 at 5:45 PM Post #1,294 of 1,670
I don't own Ananda Nano (for Hifiman I only have Arya Stealth). Look at the spec, both headphones have 94 db sensitivity at 14 and 32 ohm respectively, so Ananda Nao should be easier to drive. FYI, with DX260, I only need to set volume to 60-70% at low gain (with 4.4mm balance) with satisfactory volume level and dynamics.
I don't have Ananda Nano but my DX260 drives my headphones really well namely, Hifiman Edition XS and ZMF Bokeh.
 
Aug 26, 2024 at 9:29 AM Post #1,295 of 1,670
I recently got DX260 and have a question. From product description, it said that DX260 can by pass Android SRC so all other music apps will not be resampled. For streaming music apps, it seems ok and I can see the display of bit rate matching the content (btw, all of my streaming apps only streams hi-res using PCM, not DSD). However, with playback of offline music files using 3rd party apps, it seems that only music files with PCM encoding work properly with bit perfect. For DSD encoded music files, looks like they are always converted to PCM unless using the stock Mango player. While it could be just the problem of not showing the correct bit rate in the header, but I did hear difference in sound quality with the stock Mango player so I believe there was actual DSD to PCM conversion happened when using those 3rd party music app.

I would like to use 3rd party music app because UX of Mango player is quite poor ... not end of the world, but if possible, would like to use 3rd party app such as Fiio or Riby music app.
 
Aug 26, 2024 at 10:05 AM Post #1,296 of 1,670
I recently got DX260 and have a question. From product description, it said that DX260 can by pass Android SRC so all other music apps will not be resampled. For streaming music apps, it seems ok and I can see the display of bit rate matching the content (btw, all of my streaming apps only streams hi-res using PCM, not DSD). However, with playback of offline music files using 3rd party apps, it seems that only music files with PCM encoding work properly with bit perfect. For DSD encoded music files, looks like they are always converted to PCM unless using the stock Mango player. While it could be just the problem of not showing the correct bit rate in the header, but I did hear difference in sound quality with the stock Mango player so I believe there was actual DSD to PCM conversion happened when using those 3rd party music app.

I would like to use 3rd party music app because UX of Mango player is quite poor ... not end of the world, but if possible, would like to use 3rd party app such as Fiio or Riby music app.
Btw, I found that USB Audio Player Pro can do the job ... it can recognize DX260 and knows that it has internal high res DAC. DSD files can now be played at native sampling rate. :)
 
Aug 26, 2024 at 10:51 AM Post #1,297 of 1,670
Btw, I found that USB Audio Player Pro can do the job ... it can recognize DX260 and knows that it has internal high res DAC. DSD files can now be played at native sampling rate. :)
Interesting. I've decided I can't put up anymore with Mango; the UI is awful. I've been trying Poweramp, but I don't think it sounds as good as Mango. Are you using UAPP as your main/only player? How does the SQ compare with Mango and how does the UI compare with Poweramp? I'm asking as there doesn't appear to be a trial version of UAPP. Many thanks.
 
Aug 26, 2024 at 11:01 AM Post #1,298 of 1,670
Interesting. I've decided I can't put up anymore with Mango; the UI is awful. I've been trying Poweramp, but I don't think it sounds as good as Mango. Are you using UAPP as your main/only player? How does the SQ compare with Mango and how does the UI compare with Poweramp? I'm asking as there doesn't appear to be a trial version of UAPP. Many thanks.
For sound quality, I need to do further testing, but at least sampling rate can be shown correctly for all types of audio - PCM 44kz, 96Kz, 192Kz, DSD 64, 128, etc. I am using USB Audio Player Pro which is a free app with a few features require to purchase (but I don't need those features).
 
Aug 26, 2024 at 11:05 AM Post #1,299 of 1,670
For sound quality, I need to do further testing, but at least sampling rate can be shown correctly for all types of audio - PCM 44kz, 96Kz, 192Kz, DSD 64, 128, etc. I am using USB Audio Player Pro which is a free app with a few features require to purchase (but I don't need those features).
I can only see a paid version at £6.99?
 
Aug 26, 2024 at 11:19 AM Post #1,301 of 1,670
Interesting. I've decided I can't put up anymore with Mango; the UI is awful. I've been trying Poweramp, but I don't think it sounds as good as Mango. Are you using UAPP as your main/only player? How does the SQ compare with Mango and how does the UI compare with Poweramp? I'm asking as there doesn't appear to be a trial version of UAPP. Many thanks.
I tested for a few sounds ... I think the sound difference is nearly the same as Mango - if there is difference it is very minor (need to test more to confirm whether there is real difference), and it is definitely not like playing with other players such as Fiio Music App, Hiby Music Player ... the sound difference for DSD files is very noticeable.
 
Aug 27, 2024 at 2:28 PM Post #1,302 of 1,670
UAPP is by far the most versatile music player software for Android and well worth the asking price in my imho. It works well with playlists generated by library management software. And for those who care, It also supports native DSD playback when other software only supports D2P or DoP.
At this point in time I can't see myself using anything else regardless of the actual player.
 
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Aug 27, 2024 at 5:37 PM Post #1,303 of 1,670
UAPP is by far the most versatile music player software for Android and well worth the asking price in my imho. It works well with playlists generated by library management software. And for those who care, It also supports native DSD playback when other software only supports D2P or DoP.
At this point in time I can't see myself using anything else regardless of the actual player.
not UAPP thread but how is the shuffle mode on it? I find the shuffle on neutron not great as it repeats same tracks sometimes after reboot.
 
Aug 28, 2024 at 9:14 PM Post #1,305 of 1,670
I had the Shanling M7 and Cayin N7, and compared the DX260 with both of them. To my ears, the DX260 was miles ahead in performance. Sure N7 had a slightly more organic midrange, but was no match in technicalities.
 

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