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May 31, 2024 at 3:33 PM Post #1,021 of 1,690
Hi Paul,

Is there a tempered glass screen protector you're aware of that fits the DX260 perfectly? Or are there other recent iBasso models that might have tempered glass protectors on the market where the screen is the exact same size? I had to toss the first screen protector (of the generous 4) included with my DX260 and the official leather case kept lifting one of the corners up because the tolerance was so tight (I've since switched to a custom case).

Still, I'd prefer a tempered glass protector if an option.
You can always try custom size screen protectors from protectionfilms24. The site is based in the EU but since the screens are flexible enough to be sent in a regular letter envelope, I would not be surprised if they ship overseas and shipping costs aren't that much.

For mine I used the following dimensions:
64.5mm x 119.0mm (radius 1.0mm)

It's a 99% perfect fit.
 
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Jun 1, 2024 at 5:34 PM Post #1,024 of 1,690
I really do love how iBasso sounds more than any FiiO and on par with Astell & Kern.
Im not complaining about the sound.
It is super annoying, so annoying that I want to quit the audio world from players to iems to everything.
I accidentally hit the button and it goes to the next track.
Why don’t you make it flat and have a bump and It is very sensitive. Why?
Why did you not add a global equalizer , is a music player wake up my god ?
Give me a reason why this should lag.
Why you give updates that do nothing.
Are you listening ibasso, are you ?
Omg i will explode , I will explode.
 
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Jun 1, 2024 at 5:43 PM Post #1,025 of 1,690
I really do love how iBasso sounds more than any FiiO and on par with Astell & Kern.
Im not complaining about the sound.
It is super annoying, so annoying that I want to quit the audio world from players to iems to everything.
I accidentally hit the button and it goes to the next track.
Why don’t you make it flat and have a bump and It is very sensitive. Why?
Why did you not add a global equalizer , is a music player wake up my god ?
Give me a reason why this should lag.
Why you give updates that do nothing.
Are you listening ibasso, are you ?
Omg i will explode , I will explode.
In the menu turn off the side buttons except when the screen is on. How does it lag? I don't have that issue.
 
Jun 1, 2024 at 6:12 PM Post #1,026 of 1,690
In the menu turn off the side buttons except when the screen is on. How does it lag? I don't have that issue.

Sometimes do this as it is not optimized.
Music services when the lock screen is off and music is playing ,it takes longer than it should to respond when I turn on the screen to go to the next track.
When I try to close background services it is buggy using the swipe gesture navigation.

This has nothing to do with the Android operating system or the processor used as the Snapdragon 660 is faster than the 665.
It is more about optimizing the software.
Besides that why is there no global equalizer? Why avoid such a critical feature? I can’t understand, I really can’t.
No support of dolby atmos, 360 or any kind of sound tuning.
Also why make the buttons bumpy and so sensitive?

It includes no charger, no leather case, no glass screen protectors and it comes with a cable that is usb a to usb c which for me this cable is not usable as my chargers to are usb c to usb c .

This device cost 1k brother. We have 2024.
Also where is the double tap to wake up the screen as is android and I don’t want to use the volume wheel to do so.

I have zero complaints about the sound,
But still the rest should be better perfect for this price. Another one is the volume indicator is showing when i use the volume which is distracting and is no option to avoid and also isnt as accurate and a bit laggy.

Also the internet connection disconnects if the signal is not strong enough. I don’t know if reconnecting automatically as i have no patience to wait.
With my other devices never happens and i have very fast and dual router. Pc shows nearly full and the ibasso shows no internet.

The volume indicator on top is more than enough for me. I still do like it a lot, sound is top notch. thx god can be solved as isn’t about the sound.

I hope someone reads it and fix. I see headfi as a place to give feedback rather praising and pretending that is everything so amazing.
 

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Jun 1, 2024 at 6:59 PM Post #1,027 of 1,690
I really do love how iBasso sounds more than any FiiO and on par with Astell & Kern.
Im not complaining about the sound.
It is super annoying, so annoying that I want to quit the audio world from players to iems to everything.
I accidentally hit the button and it goes to the next track.
Why don’t you make it flat and have a bump and It is very sensitive. Why?
Why did you not add a global equalizer , is a music player wake up my god ?
Give me a reason why this should lag.
Why you give updates that do nothing.
Are you listening ibasso, are you ?
Omg i will explode , I will explode.
😳
 
Jun 3, 2024 at 6:58 AM Post #1,029 of 1,690
Is it just me or can anyone else actually not hear any change in sound with any of the 3 FIR options?

I don’t and most folks won’t either.
Unless you have extremely good ears most of us won’t be able to differentiate between the FIR options
I found the difference extremely noticeable on my Elysian Annihilators.

I prefer FIR off, 2x and 4x apply more and more smearing of the sound, kind of like Temporal Anti-Aliasing. It muddles the details, softens and veils the dynamics which I think worsens the sound.

If you have a warmer pair of iems you may not notice it.
 
Jun 4, 2024 at 3:10 AM Post #1,030 of 1,690
I found the difference extremely noticeable on my Elysian Annihilators.

I prefer FIR off, 2x and 4x apply more and more smearing of the sound, kind of like Temporal Anti-Aliasing. It muddles the details, softens and veils the dynamics which I think worsens the sound.

If you have a warmer pair of iems you may not notice it.
Oh, yes, I even can hear it with much lower tier IEMs, maybe not so concrete like with your Ani's, but my two DUNU's, the SA6 MkII and the DaVinci's, as well as my Himalaya's, you can hear at least the difference between FIR Normal* and FIR 2x or 4x (2x vs 4x not so much to me). My personal approach is, with high res files and/or good recordings, I leave it at Normal, and when listening to anything below that, e.g. Mp3's or Spotify, I often use FIR 2x, then it sounds just a bit better.

*which in the end means that a FIR filter, a "basic" one, is applied > because its a sigma-delta and not a R2R, you need to have either IIR or FIR DAC domain filters applied by design, but FIR is mostly preferable to IIR, (but we unfortunately don't get the specific algorithms/FIR filter settings, tap length, aso from @Paul - iBasso I guess? >please Paul, could you get your product managers share some more light on what FIR "Normal", "2x", and "4x" really do?)
 
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Jun 4, 2024 at 3:28 AM Post #1,031 of 1,690
Oh, yes, I even can hear it with much lower tier IEMs, maybe not so concrete like with your Ani's, but my two DUNU's, the SA6 MkII and the DaVinci's, as well as my Himalaya's, you can hear at least the difference between FIR Normal* and FIR 2x or 4x (2x vs 4x not so much to me). My personal approach is, with high res files and/or good recordings, I leave it at Normal, and when listening to anything below that, e.g. Mp3's or Spotify, I often use FIR 2x, then it sounds just a bit better.

*which in the end means that a FIR filter, a "basic" one, is applied > because its a sigma-delta and not a R2R, you need to have either IIR or FIR DAC domain filters applied by design, but FIR is mostly preferable to IIR, (but we unfortunately don't get the specific algorithms/FIR filter settings, tap length, aso from @Paul - iBasso I guess? >please Paul, could you get your product managers share some more light on what FIR "Normal", "2x", and "4x" really do?)
It staggers and averages the outputs from the dacs.

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From their marketing I'd expect:
Normal mode runs 4 dacs per channel, 4 x2 channels

2x FIR runs 2 dacs in parallel per channel and averages them
2/2 x2 channels

4x FIR runs 4 dacs in parallel per channel and averages them
4/4 x2 channels

I think the idea was to improve the precision of the reconstruction filters with hardware upsampling via staggered dac outputs.
 
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Jun 5, 2024 at 2:46 AM Post #1,032 of 1,690
Actual worst wheel in entire universe, it's been 2 weeks, it didn't smooth out.
Minimal pressure to the side and it starts scratching metal body harder than it gives tactile feedback, so you lose stepping feel and the force required to rotate it also becomes inconsistent.
The only way avoiding it is by picking up the DAP and rotating the wheel with 2 fingers from the front and back side.
But trying to adjust it with 1 finger while the DAP is on the desk is terrible.

6 year old 300$ FiiO q5s linear wheel was godsend, solid, zero wobble experience.

Didn't know after buying 1k device I would sit and try to catch and notice a tactile feedback of a volume step in between of overbearing and inconsistent metal scratching.

Not asking for advice, just venting it out, but this seems like a near resell for me.
 
Jun 5, 2024 at 8:45 PM Post #1,034 of 1,690
It staggers and averages the outputs from the dacs.



From their marketing I'd expect:
Normal mode runs 4 dacs per channel, 4 x2 channels

2x FIR runs 2 dacs in parallel per channel and averages them
2/2 x2 channels

4x FIR runs 4 dacs in parallel per channel and averages them
4/4 x2 channels

I think the idea was to improve the precision of the reconstruction filters with hardware upsampling via staggered dac outputs.

This is very confusing 🫤
I hope that all 8 DACs continue to work even when FIR mode is disabled. 😅

Actual worst wheel in entire universe, it's been 2 weeks, it didn't smooth out.
Minimal pressure to the side and it starts scratching metal body harder than it gives tactile feedback, so you lose stepping feel and the force required to rotate it also becomes inconsistent.
The only way avoiding it is by picking up the DAP and rotating the wheel with 2 fingers from the front and back side.
But trying to adjust it with 1 finger while the DAP is on the desk is terrible.

6 year old 300$ FiiO q5s linear wheel was godsend, solid, zero wobble experience.

Didn't know after buying 1k device I would sit and try to catch and notice a tactile feedback of a volume step in between of overbearing and inconsistent metal scratching.

Not asking for advice, just venting it out, but this seems like a near resell for me.

I still notice the same issues as you and the other issues I mentioned above and I was also reacting similarly. However I hope that it will get better over time. Or do we want to spend three times more to get an Astell & Kern SP3000 just for their fancy volume wheel? Maybe I'll do so, I don't know. Time will tell.

My DAP still needs a lot of burn-in but have you noticed that the bass seamlessly blends together with the midrange? It's a bit weird and I hope that the separation will improve and not stay as it is.
 
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Jun 5, 2024 at 10:19 PM Post #1,035 of 1,690
My DAP still needs a lot of burn-in but have you noticed that the bass seamlessly blends together with the midrange? It's a bit weird and I hope that the separation will improve and not stay as it is.
Not sure what you mean by separation.
Daps are supposed to be linear, maybe with overall tilt.
Thieaudio iems have sharp subbass boost and yet clean low mids, is that kind of effect you're after?
 

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