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Originally posted by theaudiohobby
Have I rattled your belief system Dusty. |
Not at all. I am of the camp of that they both sound pretty damn good, both superior to CD, but both having their strengths and their weaknesses, even if only in the implementation. I still feel that way. I am just (a) trying to understand why; and (b) trying to understand why you feel that DSD has such a clear superiority. I haven't heard a clear-cut, non-debunkable argument as to one being clearly superior to the other. A lot of close calls, but that supports the argument that they're close, rather than vastly different/superior/inferior.
WRT time accuracy -- I'm still stuck on the image of a single transient, and how it would get translated to what I understand as DSD -- a single bit indicating whether or not the next value is higher or lower than the previous one. Using DSD, a single transient (say, a square wave) would take x number of sample slices to reach full amplitude (under optimal conditions), whereas high-rate PCM would respond immediately (one sample slice). Explain me that, batman.
What I don't like about your spin-doctoring (and I apologize for the crankiness of my previous post -- I probably shouldn't post after my bedtime [size=xx-small]
yes, like I'm doing now, but I'm going to try to remain polite this time[/size]) is that you jump all over the place. You're already convinced of the "proof in the pudding" of the dCS Elgar, that it takes you from step n to n+1, QED, but none of us are hardly with you on that. So it upsamples to DSD, so what? Just another option, as far as I can see. It does a damn fine job of PCM, from where I'm standing. We're just not with you on that, and telling everyone that you've "won" this argument because of something that Joe put in one of his posts as an example of something is "arguing the ego" rather than "arguing the facts". He cited something to back up one of his claims/questions/whatever, and you just claim victory because he should not have brought it up at all. Sounds like you're playing poker, bluffing, rather than having a technical discussion. A
real technical discussion would end with, "well, have you heard both of these? Alright then..." Because really, it's all up to our ears.
PS I did state one or two objections -- you totally disregarded those:
I still need to hear your "rationalization" as to the "you really expect to be able to hear a difference at that level" argument, and how that promotes the DSD side of things rather than the equality side of things.
Ditto the noise thing.
And finally... Quote:
Originally posted by theaudiohobby
I can of DVDA, can Dusty Chalk and Joe B say the same of DSD/SACD? I await. |
Huh? You trying to pull a "Bugs Bunny" on us? I don't think so.