Do all amps sound the same.
Feb 9, 2009 at 4:43 AM Post #4 of 112
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For informational purposes only, not for discussion.

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Well, for informational purposes only, and not for purposes of discussion, it's against the rules of the forum.
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Feb 9, 2009 at 4:58 AM Post #6 of 112
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Originally Posted by milkweg /img/forum/go_quote.gif
It's only a problem if you make it a problem.


What!? Haven't others already made it clear that they have a problem with it? It's against the rules of the forum, for a good reason. If you want to discuss DBT's, why don't go do it in the Sound Science forum.
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Feb 9, 2009 at 5:05 AM Post #7 of 112
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What!? Haven't others already made it clear that they have a problem with it? It's against the rules of the forum, for a good reason. If you want to discuss DBT's, why don't go do it in the Sound Science forum.
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Yep, double that. As much as I hate to get into it, I must admit that my perception of DBT testing makes it a completely useless test, switching things constantly back and forth makes it hard for me to test things. Now when I listen to something for a few hours, like an entire CD, go for lunch, come back and do it again on a different system, then I can usually see differences.
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Feb 9, 2009 at 5:23 AM Post #8 of 112
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Originally Posted by FallenAngel /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Yep, double that. As much as I hate to get into it, I must admit that my perception of DBT testing makes it a completely useless test, switching things constantly back and forth makes it hard for me to test things. Now when I listen to something for a few hours, like an entire CD, go for lunch, come back and do it again on a different system, then I can usually see differences.
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especially if you had a couple or more beers during lunch...
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Feb 9, 2009 at 5:37 AM Post #9 of 112
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Originally Posted by upstateguy /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The "challenge" may not let you pit an 8W 300B SET amp against a 100W MOSFET amp, but I think, as in the original Stereo Review test, Link to Original Test


it will let you pit a $200. Pioneer

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against 12k Futterman monoblocks.

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Then why is that?

Will you agree that a 300B amp and a MOSFET amp sound different? Your argument seems to prove the point, does it not?
 
Feb 9, 2009 at 7:19 AM Post #11 of 112
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Will you agree that you would not be able to tell the difference between the $200 Pioneer and the 12K monoblocks?

USG



Having not heard them, I won't agree that I can tell a difference, but I think I could. Seriously, this is against the forum rules, lets not get into DBT discussions.
 
Feb 9, 2009 at 7:25 AM Post #12 of 112
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Originally Posted by FallenAngel /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Having not heard them, I won't agree that I can tell a difference, but I think I could. Seriously, this is against the forum rules, lets not get into DBT discussions.


I thought discussing only double-blind testing of cables was against the forum rules.
 
Feb 9, 2009 at 7:31 AM Post #13 of 112

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