cdacosta
Headphoneus Supremus
Let me know what you try and results?Ok thank you, I bought a precision scale for this. I think I’m going to need it.
Let me know what you try and results?Ok thank you, I bought a precision scale for this. I think I’m going to need it.
Finally got around to reading your two posts about the ground box enhancement wrap. May not be getting around to this for a while, first I'll be doing some of the Rochelle salt hacks you mentioned. A few random thoughts/questions:GBC Enhancement Wrap - Construction continued and Install
STEP 5) We are going to wrap the burrito one more time the same way to make sure it all stays together and to prevent any breakage. Really solid after this step. You want a shorter piece of cling wrap this time, like 10" or so. See pic 1 and 2. You are now done with the actual wrap. That is it, once you have made one or two, the others are easy.
The Vinyl for esthetics. The vinyl can also be used for the AC power cable wraps, same install concept. Once the GBC Enhancement Wrap is installed (see below) just take a larger piece of vinyl than the length of the installed wrap and wrap the vinyl around the whole thing. Then secure with Velcro on each end like I did, see pic 3. You want a thin vinyl, one that you can remove the backing as I mentioned in a previous post is preferred. The backing material negatively effected the performance.
Link to what I purchased, I just went to the retail store and picked up a yard. You can buy this likely anywhere:
https://www.joann.com/signature-series-vinyl-54in-black/9131541.html
The Install:
I tested so many minerals combinations, volume, install variations, it was driving me crazy. For the install location, through what seemed like forever trial and error, I found that the best location is at the ground box. See pic 3, pic 4 is with the vinyl installed over the wrap. Oddly enough, how the wrap is installed makes a difference. I found the best performance was wrapping it like in the pic, snaked around the ground cable. Laying flat over the cable I lost some coherency. This wrap can be slid up and down the cable for a slightly different result. I also tried during testing (but not of this final mineral mix), that adding a second one at the component yielded differing results. I recommend what I am showing as a start point, sounds stunning in my system like this.
I know it looks like a turd LMAO, just wait until you hear what it does! I am glad I had the foresight to get the vinyl. LOL
Some final thoughts:
* As I added more of these wraps the system got more resolute. This is very cool because detail retrieval was not something my system is lacking at this stage.
* Because of the higher resolution and clarity I am listening at a lower volume level.
* I will be trying these wraps at other ground box locations in my system, including at the cable mods. I just picked these locations at random because I can easily reach them, so I can listen during install and removal. After the third install it sounded so good, I was like holy sh***t, this is it.
* For some unless they already have many ground boxes in their system or a very refined system, they will start to hear the room acoustics. If they are not use to hearing the acoustics of the venue, that may be odd for them. Until they realize what they are hearing.
* Lastly - have fun!
I did try the Rochelle salt wraps at both ends, sounds best just at the component or filtered side, especially when a GBC Enhancement wrap is installed at the box side. I spent weeks experimenting with wraps and different ways to enhance ground cable performance.Finally got around to reading your two posts about the ground box enhancement wrap. May not be getting around to this for a while, first I'll be doing some of the Rochelle salt hacks you mentioned. A few random thoughts/questions:
Did you try Rochelle salt at both ends of the ground box cables instead of this mix at one end and salt on the other?
Mixing the ingredients - what about mixing all in a bowl beforehand and then spooning it onto the cling wrap? That's what I did with my ground box mix.
Tonal balance - were there any combinations of the ingredients that resulted in more of a neutral/fuller sound? Although I dig the effect you mentioned about more detail and resolution, it sort of put me off since I need a little more body rather than treble details.
Here's a new idea that maybe in theory worth considering - place a bare wire of some sort going along the entire length of the wrap in the middle of the mixture. Just a hunch that maybe this would have some sort of a positive effect or bring everything together somehow, similar to those wires in the grounding boxes.
Yep tried that, tried larger and small volume versions with exact same mixture. Tried laying straight across the cable, at multiple locations on the cable. Doing it all while listening so I can hear the effects/changes if any real time. Best performance is wrapping around. All testing and experimenting for the design of the ground box and cabling is live while listening.Also CDA, did you happen to try perhaps a medium bag of the mixture or two small bags sandwiched on both sides of the cable as compared to spiral wrapped in saran wrap? That would make it easier
The GBC Enhancement wraps work the same on a ground box with binding post or directly wired. The GBC Enhancement wraps enhance the cable performance, not the ground box. But obviously enhancing the cable performance in turn is elevating the performance of the ground box.A couple random thoughts. CDA, I was curious do all of the ground boxes you have those coiled wraps installed on, include a binding post or are just wires to go directly into the mix? Mine is the ladder. Not sure whether or not a direct wire would change the amount of benefit from those.
Following your journey, it's indeed astonishing the number of incremental improvements you have experienced in your sound system. What seems impressive to me is actually the level of further resolution and detail you are able to hear from the chosen headphone transducers. If I remember you have something like Sennheiser HD 800 or ZMF. It's worth noting that there is a finite limit to the detail retrieval capability and instrument separation of any dynamic or planar magnetic transducers. I would be interested to hear your experiences with either electrostatic or AMT headphones with your system. I foresee that would be either the biggest jawdropping experience of your audio life, or revealing about anything that may actually be overcompensating for your current headphones.
Having owned dynamic, electrostatic and AMT headphones for years, I am always quite taken aback when switching between types. No matter how good my system is, a well implemented AMT or electrostatic headphone is just not even in the same galaxy as ANY dynamic headphone. Certain exceptions may be made for the likes of the planar Audeze LCD-5, But in general planar and dynamic headphones still always win (ONLY) for dynamics like bass slam, but seem incapable of holding a candle to the detail retrieval from electrostats especially, with AMT trailing behind given the superior speed at which the transducers move. You could possibly get a used AMT headphone like HEDDphone One for a good price like I did, which I still liked better than the newer smaller HEDDphone 2 I tried at Can Jam SoCal 2023. If going electrostatic, of course that is a different route that requires its own energizer (amp).
I've been using 05 ground boxes in my chain. Do I need to use Rochellte salt to all the ground boxes? Otherwise, for the RJ45, where is the best place to use Rochellte salt? Thank you.Tell us what the audible difference is if any? Make sure you do one at a time and listen. LOL you will be able to tune the ground cable and what you hear at the same time.
Rochelle salt can be used as part of ground box mineral mix or on the destination end/component filtered end of a ground cable. I only use the Rochelle salt on ground cables with the GBC Enhancement wraps on the ground box end. You can try a 1 gram wrap on a ground cable at the component (filtered end), without a GBC Enhancement wrap and see how that sounds.I've been using 05 ground boxes in my chain. Do I need to use Rochellte salt to all the ground boxes? Otherwise, for the RJ45, where is the best place to use Rochellte salt? Thank you.
Cool, my pleasure. The good news is applying per my DIY post to light switches and outlets, the performance gains are much more profound than at the breakers. Whether on the audio system circuit or not. The effect is cumulative.And Finally... Started my first trip into RS land today.
l am based in the UK, my house set up is a little strange, as l have 3 power breakers in total in my house, due to buildings being added over the years, so with that in mind, l treated two of the power breaker boxes, both 14grams of RS in front of the breakers
How does it sound at my end, l have used RS already in my R26, so l was wondering what effect it would have ,just on my two power breakers using 14grams. So very very positive results... lt's hard to express using all the cliques, but it resulted into smoother,but more controlled sound,definitely lowering the noise floor further.
lt was when l revisited Jessie Buckley & Bernard Butler track "For All Or Days...."
l had never heard it sound so good, harshness totally gone, dynamics brilliant, and more importantly when the chorus hits, everything is controlled and where it should be, on my previous set up,this wasn't the case, when the chorus would come in, there would be that harshness,lack of control.
Thanks cdacosta for such a great discovery, next week l will be making up small wraps for all those sockets.
I put a baggy in the breaker box. It definitely reduced noise in my system. The noise that my tube amp was picking up is like 90% gone. Where else can I apply this? Is it effective on signal lines or only power?
I put a baggy in the breaker box. It definitely reduced noise in my system. The noise that my tube amp was picking up is like 90% gone. Where else can I apply this? Is it effective on signal lines or only power?
I put a baggy in the breaker box. It definitely reduced noise in my system. The noise that my tube amp was picking up is like 90% gone. Where else can I apply this? Is it effective on signal lines or only power?
Bro, trust me, you have not heard what is possible. Not even close. Do exactly what I recommend in the DIY post to remove EMI from your AC line at light switch and outlet junctions.I put a baggy in the breaker box.
It definitely reduced noise in my system. The noise that my tube amp was picking up is like 90% gone.
Where else can I apply this?
Is it effective on signal lines or only power?