[Themilkman46290]

Does anyone know what these earbuds are


Mr. @GREQ posted these on Earbud roundup.
@robar check his gallery, he has a ton of headphone drivers photos

Rose techniques
They have several models like this, I think this is from the latest gen masya

 

[Themilkman46290]

If they were not 300 dollars I would've bought a pair, dual drivers, big one for bass/sub bass and smaller driver in front for the mids and highs

 

[furyossa]

Exactly, as soon as you start to fix one thing, something else crumbles, but I like a challenge so I can't complain.
Specially because it's our house, I have never owned a place in my life, makes me happy to have this security, 20 years in the U.s.a and I only dreamt of the opportunity, now we own our place......
Feels like a dream

In that case every challenge pays off and every time it's hard for you, just imagine how you build a special DIY project for your lady

 

[Themilkman46290]

Sorry, I thought it was rose masya, looks like rose maria
Here are some more pictures, I wish I had a 3d printer, it would be interesting to try this out


I tried unsuccessfully using a couple of cheap 16 mm potentiometer nobs but I couldn't get it to sound well

 

[furyossa]

If they were not 300 dollars I would've bought a pair, dual drivers, big one for bass/sub bass and smaller driver in front for the mids and highs

Yup I know about all Rose buds and the drivers but model that I posted earlier it's unknown to me, and it has fixed cables.
3D printin will be very cheap for this shells but you need to get the 3D model or model it by yourself I don't have dimensions for this shell otherwise it would make a 3d object for 3D printing.
I found here locally a guy who prints superhero figures. With this level of detail, I don't think it will be a problem to print small earbuds. See the precision of these figures


BTW...are you saw PM from last night? Can you open ZIP archive

 

[Themilkman46290]

I guess you are right, maybe it is not a rose tech bud.....
But the concept can be thought up, I guess I will need to model some, keep trying, maybe try uv plastic


I was able to open them, I just haven't gotten around to changing it yet, definitely liking the Riley black and white pic

 

[potatoheadexperience]

So long time lurker here, but i'm curious if anyone have tried using these LCP 32ohm 15.4mm drivers? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...8.0&pvid=4f813a5a-4d37-4183-ba20-fb0f21d445fe
Are they a good pair of drivers or no? i'm currently using the 130 ohm Berys and they're pretty top-notch, i have to say .

 

[robar]

Btw NSC store has also listed recently the 32ohm bery and biocomposite drivers, and for a lot cheaper than other sellers. They're less than 6usd there

 

[FranQL]

Been watching and listening to earbuds for about 4 years, when the most expensive earbuds were 300 bucks, and the average totl bud was around 120-190 (I feel this was justified, if the quality of sound was good enough) during this time I began reading a lot about different companies (like venture electronics, faeal, seahf, earphone association)
And I cam across some group that was talking about the how some of these guys made there success, the industry had shifted away from earbuds in general and focused on iems, because of that, the price on foster style drivers had dropped tremendously, this left some dead stock of totl drivers in different wear houses in China and other places, some of these guys formed the earbud association and and other companies and catered to Asian comunity and they raised enough money to buy a few thousand drivers, they then tuned this for some headphone meets and had begun selling very cheap totl buds to people in there area, and in the case of VE they had grown big enough to begin selling outside of there company.
So now that there has been a huge boom in the earbud market companies like Audiotechnica jump in with outrageously priced garbage, and of course it sold, this signalled other leading companies to drop the budget segment and jump into the high end segment.
I was chatting with the owner of VE monk, and asked about there new pricing and he said there was no point for him to spend so much time in the budget segment, he can sell the same products to the "money is no object" segment and make huge returned on the same products, that was 3 years back.
Now VE has a few 500 and 700 dollars totl earbuds, the average price is 300 for a decent pair and audio technica has jumped in with an earbud that was not received as well as they had hope for almost 500 bucks, and people rushed to buy them even tho the reviews had not given them a very positive rating (I had not listened but I understand it was another mid focused bud with "retro" sound) so the industry took a small change, and a bunch of new companies showed up in the "money is no object" crowed. So now that earbuds are becoming popular, we can expect prices to inflate more and more and as long as the western world buys the over priced crap like astell kern, 700 dollar buds and 1000 dollar iems, then companies will move in the direction, and sadly some companies that catered to normal people will slowly move to the "audiofools" group who swear the the best DAP is astell and kern even though it may have high output impedance and weaker amp stage.
I river was a good company with decent prices on there daps, but after apple had revolutionised the market by proving that there was no need to improve your product to convince people that it's far ahead of the competition, you can convince the majority of people that your product is better simply by increasing the price over the competition by atleast 30% and people will beleive it it 30% better, Iriver then decided to use premium materials and give the self a name that sounded like it was German engineered, Astell & kern was born, at stupidly high prices with horrible output impedance and weak amp stages, they need sensitive high impedance dynamic drivers to sound there best.
And let's not get started on the crinacle guy, single handedly bringing down the campfire company who had a reputation of being soooo much better then the competition but selling a lot of overpriced badly tuned crap.
So as long as the world is full of people who are eager to throw away there money because "it is no object" it only makes sense that companies who make very good players with well thought out amp stages and low out put impedance like ibasso to have to raise there price so that people don't think there so much worst then the competition, and make extra money without increasing the amount they spend on research and development, it's a win win for the industry
But we lose, we end up with
Audio-Technica ATH-CM2000Ti for 480 dollars with rolled highs and lows...........

After I bought my k's samsara for 120 bucks, the prices of totl quickly began to increase to the prices they are now, and now there are a lot of new companies, even fiio (a company who has left a bad flavor in my mouth since the x1ii) have 300 dollar earbuds (I wasn't very impressed with there sound)
So I decided to try diy
I used samsara as my reference and to my surprise, like the owner of VE said to me, it isn't difficult to tune an earbud
The 400ohm were the first that I realized can be better, then the 130 I was able to tune better

So if any of the people reading this have been curious to try it, please do
And for the people thinking of dropping 400 on some earbuds, contact me, for that price I will tune drivers to sound how ever you prefer, I will even add a pure silver cable and gold plated mx500 shells for the low low price of 400 dollars..... It's a deal, and I guarantee you, that you are special...

spectacular analysis, totally agree with you.

 

[730user]

For several years I have been assembling Chinese diy dacs for myself. I followed this thread. Many of the now famous DAC factories grew out of diy. The price was growing right before my eyes ... I am glad that new players appear and at first their prices are reasonable ...

 

[earfanatic]

Long docomo shell bass port question:

Did You notice difference when using thin vs thick cable with this shell?
The bass port is the cable tunnel as well, so the thick cable can block the bass port or make the effective diameter smaller.

I noticed the original bud was assembled with a very thin cable.
New PK shells have separate tunnels, and not affected by cable thickness.

 

[furyossa]

Long docomo shell bass port question:

Did You notice difference when using thin vs thick cable with this shell?
The bass port is the cable tunnel as well, so the thick cable can block the bass port or make the effective diameter smaller.

I noticed the original bud was assembled with a very thin cable.
New PK shells have separate tunnels, and not affected by cable thickness.

Either way you can't use thick 8 core cable o 4-core "bulk" cable because of small tunnel. I use mostly RY-Cxx cables and they fit perfectly

If you are looking for slightly better quality thin cables
This is the cable that is use for Tingo TG-38s https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32825814438.html
Tiger cable https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000272863965.html and if you want wire for the balanced cable then you need
4-core wire https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32612774761.html . BTW... Chity can assemble cable for you.
Slightly rigid but very durable and high quality Furukawa cable https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32406354221.html.
I use Furukawa "Red" for my 150ohm "redfim" buds

 

[earfanatic]

Either way you can't use thick 8 core cable o 4-core "bulk" cable because of small tunnel. I use mostly RY-Cxx cables and they fit perfectly

If you are looking for slightly better quality thin cables
This is the cabble that is use for Tingo TG-38s https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32825814438.html
Tiger cable https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000272863965.html and if you vant wire for the balanced cable then you need
4-core wire https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32612774761.html . BTW... Chity can assemble cable for you.
SLightly rigid but very durable and high quality Furukawa cable https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32406354221.html.
I use Furukawa "Red" for my 150ohm "redfim" buds

Thank You for the recommendations!

 

[robar]

Long docomo shell bass port question:

Did You notice difference when using thin vs thick cable with this shell?
The bass port is the cable tunnel as well, so the thick cable can block the bass port or make the effective diameter smaller.

I noticed the original bud was assembled with a very thin cable.
New PK shells have separate tunnels, and not affected by cable thickness.

I don't have docomo shell but I did notice drop in bass response in other similar shells when using thick cables.

Quick tip: you can get the aluminium foil cables @furyossa mentioned for less money here:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32984730008.html

I also like this if I want an ultra light cable which is easy to work with:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32907545114.html

This is a bit thicker but still soft and relatively thin, I quite like it with mx500
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32818428493.html

And I'm eyeing this bundle for cheap thin cables
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000234736461.html

I also have RY-C11 cable and while it'snice overall, my problem is that it's "noisy" in a sense that it creates a lot of mechanical noise when it moves around in the stem under tension. It can be quite frustrating especially with smaller/tighter shells than mx500, mine is in a box unused for this reason. This is why I tend to avoid braided cables. I'll probably convert it to mmcx someday.

 

[furyossa]

Quick tip: you can get the aluminium foil cables @furyossa mentioned for less money here:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32984730008.html

For some reason, I like this cable. It's light, soft, tangle-free and because of this I didn't want to swap it with any other cable.
Last week and probably this one, TG-38s is on my desk, and I am currently using it as a daily driver. I really like sound signature of this buds

This is a bit thicker but still soft and relatively thin, I quite like it with mx500
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32818428493.html

Yup, red version of Tiger cable (3-core).

And I'm eyeing this bundle for cheap thin cables
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000234736461.html

It reminds me of old KZ cables and I think they used it for OG Yinman 150

I also have RY-C11 cable and while it'snice overall, my problem is that it's "noisy" in a sense that it creates a lot of mechanical noise when it moves around in the stem under tension. It can be quite frustrating especially with smaller/tighter shells than mx500, mine is in a box unused for this reason. This is why I tend to avoid braided cables. I'll probably convert it to mmcx someday.

That's why I wrap the part which pass through steam with shrink tube. This will also prevent unwinding