[mr_baseball_08]

Hate to act like a mod but you might wanna keep it on topic guys, so we don't get this thread shut down

 

[F1GTR]

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Originally Posted by n_maher Speaking from someone who had friends working in the towers on that day, as a licensed structural engineer who designs buildings (although not skyscrapers), and as someone who spoke with the engineer who designed the towers I'm pretty confident that your "truth" is not the truth.

If you supposedly spoke with the engineer who designed the towers then I'm sure you're familiar with Kevin Ryan from Underwriters Laboratories and how he was fired for debunking the official story in the report he released?

http://www.septembereleventh.org/new...11-11-ryan.php

"The following letter was sent today by Kevin Ryan of Underwriters Laboratories to Frank Gayle of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Underwriters Laboratories is the company that certified the steel componets used in the constuction of the World Trade Center towers. The information in this letter is of great importance."

For those that are interested in reading more on this subject, please check out this thread which has people from both sides of the issue battling it out with physics, evidence and the like. I will warn you that it is a 54 page long thread and will take numerous hours/days to complete reading. It's an extremely interesting discussion that covers almost any question you could possibly have about the events of that day.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread149925/pg1

 

[909]

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Originally Posted by marvin Non-stop non-refueled solo flights around the earth were done long before 2005. In fact, Yuri Gagarin did it on April 12, 1961.

When I made my statement I was only referring to within our atmosphere not from outer space.

 

[909]

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Originally Posted by Edwood

Ralph, What Ralph….

One of these days Alice, I tell you one of these days, BANG! ZOOM! To the MOOOON ALICE TO THE MOOON….

just try Ralph.

 

[909]

Here's another in support of the moon missions
http://theskepticexpress.com/were_th...ings_faked.php
But just scanning through it does answer how we took pictures of the craft landing?

Additionally, I've read that the Russians used robots to place reflectors on the moon (so it is possible we did the same) and that the Russians tracked the Apollo missions to the moon and back, which does seem probable.

 

[00940]

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Originally Posted by mr_baseball_08 NO ONE who has stated their opinion here is a rocket scientist (pun intended). At best we may have a few people with physics degrees. None truely know of the capabilities of a space shuttle and the inner workings behind getting one into orbit, much less the moon. No one here in an expert, so no one here is more right than the other. All points that have been made here where brought about by some Google search or read in a book somewhere. The things we're debating are what others have told us. That's my point.

Well, then. Go ask the question on an engineering forum. Faculties dedicated to aerospatial studies aren't so few. Have fun getting flammed there because knowing a few guys who graduated in such field, they won't like your ideas much.

 

[00940]

double post

 

[aerius]

Every single 9/11 conspiracy theory comes down to this: WTC was a controlled demolition and the Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile. Which is ridiculously easy to debunk for anyone with a functional brain.

To setup a demolition of the towers would require at the very least, hundreds of explosives chages. Not a couple little bangs and falling windows as seen in the whack-a-loony tapes, but hundreds of carefully timed and sequenced explosions which would sound like a string of firecrackers going off. It would blow out every window on several floors, not a few isolated windows. Not to mention that it would require miles of wires and detacord, none of which is going to survive a plane flying into it. No wires & detacord, no bang.

As for the Pentagon, it's built to resist 1000 pound aerial bombs as well as heavy artillery, and an upgrade program was underway to make it even stronger. A cruise missile will at most blow through one ring of the Pentagon, they only have 1000 pound warheads. Not to mention the damage pattern is completely inconsistent with a missile strike. A missile would cause a spherical field of destruction, the Pentagon was more like a trapezoid shape, consistent with a plane plowing through it and stopping, not a missile penetrating and exploding.

It doesn't take a genius to figure this out, just a working brain and some common sense.

 

[mr.karmalicious]

Not to bump a dead thread, but I just watched that Loose Change video (here, if you didn't see it), and all I can say is wow. I had many of the same questions as those who do not believe that there was a conspiracy, but that film answered all of them. Please, do yourself a favor and watch it.

(The most intriguing parts are where the government's "explanations" are disproved with pure science.)

 

[F1GTR]

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Originally Posted by mr.karmalicious (The most intriguing parts are where the government's "explanations" are disproved with pure science.)

Precisely. Yet there are so many people still in denial to the point where they won't even allow themselves to question the possibility that this occurred. Sure it's a preposterous concept to fathom to begin with; however, once you get past the denial and start really looking at the physics, it just can't be denied any longer.

They had a huge 9/11 National Education + Research Conference this weekend in LA that I couldn't make it to. I would have really loved to have been there. Supposedly CSPAN was there to cover it and actor Charlie Sheen was a guest speaker/supporter.

http://69.93.122.250/%7Eamerican/

It received international recognition as well.

http://in.today.reuters.com/news/new...archived=False

There will be another 9/11 National Debate coming up in September where the Federal Government will be sending 7 of their top debaters/experts to try and do battle with an educated and professional 7 that are opposed to the "official lie". It should be quite an interesting event.

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/D...e8May2006.html

Check out this new information that was released this week.

Scientific Analysis Proves Towers Brought Down By Incendiaries - Steven Jones' analysis on WTC steel about to be released

http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/...cendiaries.htm

 

[elrod-tom]

We have this thing about political discusion being a no-no...and I'm thinking that this is one of those instances.

I'm shutting the thread down for now. We're going to discuss further, and it's possible it may re-open later.

 

[John Done]

We surely will be there till 2023. NASA has different partners in collaboration which can help humans succeed in Moon exploration. NASA’s Artemis program proposes to journey the first woman and the next man to the Moon by 2024. In order to obtain a sustainable presence on the surface of the Moon, both international and commercial partners will offer collaborative efforts in an attempt to generate this steppingstone toward the first human mission to Mars. NASA and the UK Space Agency have signed a historic agreement concerning the principles for space exploration, commercial activities, and scientific operations ahead of a proposed mission involving travel to the Moon https://www.skyrora.com/blog/uk-space-news.

 

[Redcarmoose]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_the_Moon

Did We Go To The Moon?

That's the thread title. Yet it's a silly question as we go to Moon all the time?


If Apollo 11 landed on the Moon in July of 1969?


Did men walk of the moon?
First off conspiracy ideas are normally based off small groups.........not thousands and thousands of people. Of course we went to the Moon and walked on it.Too big a thing to fake.

 

[wuwhere]

They went to the moon, brought back some moon rocks for souvenirs.

 

[Redcarmoose]

The one concept that’s fascinating is:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium-3

It turns out the Moon has tons of it and it can be a valuable source of energy in cold fusion. In fact one Space Shuttle carrying payload would power a city for a year, if cold fusion was fully developed and became a reality.