Eh. I don't agree with the reasoning here - "if you like neutral you won't like the 7200." The Audio Technica ATH-R70X are among my favorites, extremely neutral, and I still love the Denons. They both do different things well, is all. I also wouldn't characterize the 7200 as "muddy", but I also use very clean, high power sources.
Actually I agree with you that you can like neutral and also like 7200 at the same time. I love the 7200, but I did not like the HD650 - this is a more accurate description of my point of view.
I've got a D5200 for some time now and a D7200 for about a week. IMHO from your description the definitely is not your cup of tea, because compared to the D5200 it is just the oposite direction from what you want. For me the D7200 is an overall darker headphone with more "constricted" vocals. But it also has it strengths. These greatly depends on how the music was mixed. On bright 80's rock/metal recordings I prefer the D7200. Other than that I currently use some EQ on it, which I've never felt was necessary on the D5200.
Exchange 9200 with 5200 in your description and it may fit as wellThis was only bc the frequency band for vocals are more pronounced on the 9200 compared to 7200, which creates a different perception how vocals are sorted on the headstage.
The biggest impact on vocals comes from the recording itself, imo.
The vocals on the 7200 are more "laid back" than on the 9200 (like the highs too), which is a benefit for long term music enjoyment, I'd say.
But again, it depends on the volume level you're listening whether it suits your preferences or not.
I am a low volume listener, so the 9200 is a great headphone for my use case, but I still miss the 7200 for its long term capabilities.
Thou sometimes, the bass of the D7200 on certain tracks was too much for me. ^^
Also bought it from amazon.de. My impression is that the D7200 is a bit thick at upper bass/lower midrange, which makes it a bit boomy. Also there could be a bit more energy in the upper mids. This probably is what you call muddled.
Man thank you so much for the comparison, now I don't have to regret passing up on a D7200 deal LOL.
I managed to demo the D9200 recently but I forgot to bring my own source gear (Dragonfly Red LOL). The store had RME ADI-2-DAC which I suspect might be too bright / neutral for it even though it's technically superior. So while I thought it was good but I wasn't blown away coming from D5200.Exchange 9200 with 5200 in your description and it may fit as well
Still not sure if I'll keep the D7200 or if I'll send it back for refund. I'm actually also interested how the Fostex TH-610 sounds in comparison to the 5200/7200. Or maybe also the Fostex TH-X00 (which nowadays is rather hard to get).
Ok. ^^I've got a D5200 for some time now and a D7200 for about a week. IMHO from your description the definitely is not your cup of tea, because compared to the D5200 it is just the oposite direction from what you want. For me the D7200 is an overall darker headphone with more "constricted" vocals. But it also has it strengths. These greatly depends on how the music was mixed. On bright 80's rock/metal recordings I prefer the D7200. Other than that I currently use some EQ on it, which I've never felt was necessary on the D5200.
Site note: The D7200 looks and feels better than the D5200. But probably that's where the higher price comes from. Sound wise I would not rate it as an upgrade.
Exchange 9200 with 5200 in your description and it may fit as well
Still not sure if I'll keep the D7200 or if I'll send it back for refund. I'm actually also interested how the Fostex TH-610 sounds in comparison to the 5200/7200. Or maybe also the Fostex TH-X00 (which nowadays is rather hard to get).
LOL sorry don't get me wrong, I only get to listen to it at the store for 15 minutes so MOST LIKELY I won't notice all the extra nuances long term listening will give you. I've also had the D5200 for a while now so it's not a fair comparison.Ok. ^^
Never had the opportunity to listen to the D5200.
Maybe the 9200 is a way more refined D5200 with a more luxury feel.
Also bought it from amazon.de. My impression is that the D7200 is a bit thick at upper bass/lower midrange, which makes it a bit boomy. Also there could be a bit more energy in the upper mids. This probably is what you call muddled.
And yes, these are my main issues with the D7200, too.
lol that's really neat! This makes me want to try D9200 again LOL.Hi,
at https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro I've found frequency response graphs, that fit quite well to what my impression is. Crinacle also has graphs, but his graph for the D7200 just does not fit to what I'm hearing.
So here are the RAA graphs:
As you can see the 7200 already starts rising bass at ~350 Hz, which makes them a little bit boomy for me. Also the area between 2000 and 6000 Hz might show, why it sounds even more dark.
Here is the D9200 added, too. Just FYI:
The last graphs actually were "sensitivy" graphs. This means a more sensitive can can is higher.
Depending on your location, we could make it happen.Oh, an let me add: graphs are lying
Here is another graph, with average SPL:
But yes: still would like to listen to a D9200...
Also bought it from amazon.de. My impression is that the D7200 is a bit thick at upper bass/lower midrange, which makes it a bit boomy. Also there could be a bit more energy in the upper mids. This probably is what you call muddled.
And yes, these are my main issues with the D7200, too.
What Equalizer do you use? Also: what are your settings for the bands 1 and 10?Based on my previously posted frequency responses from RAA I've made a slight EQ setting on my brand new Qudelix 5K:
After 10 minutes listening this really seems to fix my main issues with the D7200
