...if it just wouldn't consume 4W in stand-by (in comparison only 8W in on state).p/s: I recommend keeping the DAC on 24/7 for best sound.
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Hey, guys!
Who how prefers to listen - NOS or OS?
And do you hear any differences (and what are these differences expressed?) between the filters Sharp / Slow?
Who how prefers to listen - NOS or OS?
And do you hear any differences (and what are these differences expressed?) between the filters Sharp / Slow?
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The default is OS I think many leave it on the defaultHey, guys!
Who how prefers to listen - NOS or OS?
And do you hear any differences (and what are these differences expressed?) between the filters Sharp / Slow?
NOS rolls of the high frequencies a bit, some people like that but I believe they are more of a minority
Sharp or Slow ? What do you prefer?
Who hears the difference between them?
And what is it?
Who hears the difference between them?
And what is it?
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This is a good resourceSharp or Slow ? What do you prefer?
Who hears the difference between them?
And what is it?
http://archimago.blogspot.com/2013/06/measurements-digital-filters-and.html?m=1
Sharp is the 'best'
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This guy claims NOS to be better and more detailed than the OS,
This guy too,
This guy too,
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This guy claims NOS to be better and more detailed than the OS,
This guy too,
More detailed? I call BS on that. That's not how NOS works
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More detailed? I call BS on that. That's not how NOS works
Yea I know, NOS should have a treble roll off, some of them still sound bright asf.
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I got this from Alvin, “Good morning. I prefer NOS most of the time. If I listen to rock music, I use OS and slow filters.”
As from my own experience, I would suggest trying the settings one at a time, first the NOS then OS and see what you like based on the type of music you listen to. Then select the filters to adjust for system corrections. Folks get so hung up what others prefer, but music and systems differ so what works for you might not be dialed in for someone else. Be thankful companies like Denafrips offer these listening options.
I’m pretty sure any selected setting combo position will not produce anything that sounds terrible and likely not make much auditable difference for some systems unless your system is highly resolving. Many YouTube reviews say little to no difference but some seems to think it does. So I’m guessing it’s highly system depended as I said.
I’ll be posting a review soon here on the site as soon as this “stay in place” thing is over and I can get some audio buddies over for a group listen and evaluation consensus.
Till then my many thanks to Alvin of Vinshine Audio.
Dean
As from my own experience, I would suggest trying the settings one at a time, first the NOS then OS and see what you like based on the type of music you listen to. Then select the filters to adjust for system corrections. Folks get so hung up what others prefer, but music and systems differ so what works for you might not be dialed in for someone else. Be thankful companies like Denafrips offer these listening options.
I’m pretty sure any selected setting combo position will not produce anything that sounds terrible and likely not make much auditable difference for some systems unless your system is highly resolving. Many YouTube reviews say little to no difference but some seems to think it does. So I’m guessing it’s highly system depended as I said.
I’ll be posting a review soon here on the site as soon as this “stay in place” thing is over and I can get some audio buddies over for a group listen and evaluation consensus.
Till then my many thanks to Alvin of Vinshine Audio.
Dean
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Now that we have a lot of time staying at home, it's a good ideal to try different configuration to hear the differences
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IMHO, NOS is best for acoustic/classical. It does seem more detailed/natural. In my system, rock/electronic/jazz or anything else with strong percussion can be more enjoyable and less fatiguing for longer listening with OS and slow filter. In agreement with Alvin here. It's a little more relaxed, less percussive "punch." The trade-off is a slightly less "realistic" sound, and slightly less open/less wide sound-stage. But for the genres that benefit most from OS/slow filter, soundstage is not the priority that it would be for classical, for example.
The difference between NOS and OS is not tremendous but is definitely there if your system has the resolution to bring this out.
Listening to "Wax Tailor" with the OS/slow filter as I type and it is a nice way to make the listening session a little more chill. However, if your drink is stiff enough, keeping it in NOS might not bug you
The difference between NOS and OS is not tremendous but is definitely there if your system has the resolution to bring this out.
Listening to "Wax Tailor" with the OS/slow filter as I type and it is a nice way to make the listening session a little more chill. However, if your drink is stiff enough, keeping it in NOS might not bug you
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In NOS there is definitely less expressive 'punch', but I wouldn't call it less realistic, just in reverse. Other than that I fully agree with. I own Audio GD R2R11, so I can only compare with the upsampled material in Foobar2000 with SoX. There is very little difference with a quality upsampling, I may be wrong. This recording I downloaded to assess some previous post, percussion sounds very impressive: https://www.discogs.com/Ahmad-Jamal...ve-At-The-Olympia-June-272012/release/6828962IMHO, NOS is best for acoustic/classical. It does seem more detailed/natural. In my system, rock/electronic/jazz or anything else with strong percussion can be more enjoyable and less fatiguing for longer listening with OS and slow filter. In agreement with Alvin here. It's a little more relaxed, less percussive "punch." The trade-off is a slightly less "realistic" sound, and slightly less open/less wide sound-stage. But for the genres that benefit most from OS/slow filter, soundstage is not the priority that it would be for classical, for example.
The difference between NOS and OS is not tremendous but is definitely there if your system has the resolution to bring this out.
Listening to "Wax Tailor" with the OS/slow filter as I type and it is a nice way to make the listening session a little more chill. However, if your drink is stiff enough, keeping it in NOS might not bug you
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... When Alvin says he prefers NOS, let's don't forget that the Terminator NOS is not the same as the Ares NOS....
daytrader
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Yes, his recommendation was addressing my question in reference to the new Ares II.... When Alvin says he prefers NOS, let's don't forget that the Terminator NOS is not the same as the Ares NOS....
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I use Ares II -> Kinki Studio THR-1 -> HD6xx
My daily tool now to listen to the news in the day time.
My daily tool now to listen to the news in the day time.
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