DENAFRIPS 'ARES' R2R discrete ladder DAC - close up view

Sep 21, 2021 at 8:00 PM Post #2,701 of 4,115
Damn, and all I wanted to do was enjoy music on a good DAC and HPA! I so love these posts that tear down a product because of A,B, or C and yet say nothing about SQ.

Thankfully I've had a chance to listen to the SA-1 and didn't hear any off that 1.21 Jigawatts of stuff going on, I'll be ordering one shortly, unless of course someone can recommend another amp that doesn't cost over what the SA-1 Costs and sounds as good!

I'm waiting...😂😂😂

Cheers!!
 
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Sep 21, 2021 at 8:01 PM Post #2,702 of 4,115
Damn, and all I wanted to do was enjoy music on a good DAC and HPA! I so love these posts that tear down a product because of A,B, or C and yet say nothing about SQ.

Thankfully I've had a chance to listen to the SA-1 and didn't hear any off that 1.21 Jigawatts of stuff going on, I'll be ordering one shortly, unless of course someone can recommend another amp that doesn't cost over what the SA-1 Costs and sounds as good!

I'm waiting...😂😂😂

Cheers!!
Sa-1 sounds excellent. You won't be disappointed :)
 
Sep 21, 2021 at 8:03 PM Post #2,703 of 4,115
Would be great if you could show some proof of what you're claiming.

You seem to have a habit of claiming the existence of flaws in designs then refusing to demonstrate them even when all other evidence contradicts what you've said.
Your initial understanding about problem was use of SMPS instead LPS. Now it is corrected, right? I didn't see any acknowledge that you was wrong. But you was wrong, a proof is above. To discuss this matter, speak to any designer with 30 years practice, you will be well informed. There are many years of experience (of many) dictating to use a single grounding point of a power supply. It is written in every design guide. Evidence? Evidence of Topping A90 pristine clean measurements, but user experience? A noisy (frequently unusable) single ended inputs, varying intensity from user to user, but problem is burried inherently in the design .
 
Sep 21, 2021 at 8:09 PM Post #2,705 of 4,115
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Sep 22, 2021 at 2:27 AM Post #2,706 of 4,115
Sep 23, 2021 at 4:06 PM Post #2,707 of 4,115
What a beautiful day today is! Pouring rain and look what showed up a day early!! Thank you So much @alvin1118 for the fantastic service!!

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Sep 25, 2021 at 1:06 PM Post #2,708 of 4,115
What a beautiful day today is! Pouring rain and look what showed up a day early!! Thank you So much @alvin1118 for the fantastic service!!

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Cheers!!
What are your impressions vs all the other dacs in your sig?
 
Sep 25, 2021 at 1:09 PM Post #2,709 of 4,115
What are your impressions vs all the other dacs in your sig?
I am only a little bit into the Ares, but so far.... I'm not seeing any great need to keep anything else around, 🤣

But it is early and I listen to so many different things, That it's way to premature to say this is the be all and end all for me.

Cheers!!
 
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Sep 25, 2021 at 2:33 PM Post #2,710 of 4,115
I am only a little bit into the Ares, but so far.... I'm not seeing any great need to keep anything else around, 🤣

But it is early and I listen to so many different things, That it's way to premature to say this is the be all and end all for me.

Cheers!!
Well once you've had some time with it, I'd like to hear your impressions vs the other dacs in particular the modius.

Thanks.
 
Sep 26, 2021 at 8:23 AM Post #2,711 of 4,115
A curious observer here looking to replace existing headphone system DAC (Topping d10s) to pair with the Kinki Studio THR-1. Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts of experience to share about this combination (THR-1 & Ares II)?
THR-1 and Ares II is an awesome experience, you can listen for hours and hours without any fatigue. Details, space, air, defined bass and not crispy trebble, very recommended.

I had the Ares II and was amazing with THR-1
 
Sep 26, 2021 at 10:48 AM Post #2,712 of 4,115
This is a biased take, read along with that in mind. Been using the mimbyv2 for over last 10 months, wanting to sample r2r magic. Loved the mimby for what it does, coming from both AKM and DS dac before it. Bifrost2 was my first choice given the shining recommendations its got everywhere. About 2 months went by and i had to really think hard on the choice between the 2, keeping my listening choices in mind.

@GoldenOne nailed the reviews of both, accurately providing descriptions of what these dacs do. Finally pulled the trigger on the Ares2 a week back to try a non-schiit house sounding R2R dac.

100 plus hours of break in..dac went through its motions, and it gets better everyday.. So far in, I'm floored, sold, hook line and sinker..!!

What an r2r gem, mind blowingly fantastic dac!! In a properly set up 2 channel stereo system, this dac completely transforms your listening experience. That surreal sense of holography in music is presented so beautifully and accurately, much like a vinyl rig. If you want to connect with the music at a deeper level than just your ears, this is the one for it. So you like tube sound, this is a must have non tube alternate.

Its ability to project an open wide stage, superb imaging and seperation, deep tight bass, light airy treble and absolutely euphonic midrange really makes this absolutely worth the price. One of the best features is its ability to throw a deep sounstage with good space around instruments. It may sound clichéd, but i hear details i dint hear before especially the quiter parts of a song. Everything in the song has its distinct place and it doesn't sound like it's a playback of a song. You hear it all around you like it's real, in the room with subtle aspects presented in the right measure. There is ample layering, no sound overlapping another, and with all the details intact, i. e. quite resolving. It really opens up an endless space both deep and wide, which makes complex tracks with multiple instrumental arrangements a joy to listen to. Tracks like Four seasons recomposed (NDR philharmonic), Jazz variants (Ozone Percussion Group) are delivered with sublime presence, resolution and soundscape. Speed and attack are great, with just the right measure of snap, especially paired with planars like Hifiman Sundara or forward sounding speakers. Another trick ups is sleeve is reverb and brings out sense of space, makes live recordings very real.. The imaging is brilliant in terms of size, scale and positioning accuracy. Timbre, tonality is spot on which makes jazz, vocals, violins, acoustic an absolute pleasure with the HD650/6XX pairing. The SS is 'euphonic' and natural (looking at you @Relaxasaurus), just the way music should sound.

Compared with multibit dacs, this has accurate bass but has lesser punch/bloom/bulk in bass. Bass drums dont have that chesty impact that one gets from the multibit dacs, though that difference is subtle and mostly evident on bass light headphones. While that may sound like a sacrifice, Ares II is definitely better at everything else. If you are a bass head, get the Multibit R2R.

If you are chasing intimate natural sound, accurate timber, tonality, exceptional presence and reverb, fantastic resolution and treble (without sounding metallic/crispy/sharp like DS dacs), this dac can as well be your end game for a long time to come.

Yes this is very close to analog sound. Now who doesn't want a vinyl like records library of +65 million songs collection (using Tidal)? Do you enjoy hours and hours of musical engagement thats not a hyper detailed, in your face wall of sound? Does music move you within? If yes, you won't regret getting an ares2.

This is a keeper and im going to be very satisfied for a very very long time. Just ensure you set up your rig properly to really extract what this dac has to offer and you will be delighted every time you press that play button!!
 

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Sep 26, 2021 at 4:45 PM Post #2,713 of 4,115
I'm looking fwd to hearing the ares 2. Have had the Topping d70s for awhile now. Should have the ares 2 in my system next weekend. Looking fwd to my 1st dac comparison. I love all music including techno/hip hop but considering I have 2 systems...both with bookshelf speakers(Focal Aris 906 and Acoustics Energy Ae1 actives)...both aren't focused on bass so found no need to try and get them to do what they weren't designed to do. So..decided on Ares 2 over the bitfrost and Gumby. I had the modius before the Topping d70s and the d70s is much more enjoyable to listen to in my 2ch set up with the focals.
 
Sep 27, 2021 at 3:27 PM Post #2,714 of 4,115
I have several entry level DACs with the Schiit Modi multibit getting the most use. I've always really liked this little DAC but I'm thinking about spending more an a DAC now, a DAC that'll be the last one I buy. I'm retired so I won't be spending five thousand dollars on a DAC. I listen to CDs using an Audiolab transport so there will be no streaming. I've been very happy with all the Schiit gear that I have owned and currently own. I'm currently thinking about the Bifrost 2 or the Ares II. I need read up on the Ares II and go back through this thread. I'm currently using an Asgard 3 amp and Focal Clear Pro headphones.
 
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