Daylight saving time: the whole concept of moving time is a rip off!

[Zarathustra19]

I'm really indifferent to this issue except for the fact that since we set our clocks forward its been nice to have it stay light later into the night and its been hell to wake up what is really one hour earlier every morning. I used to get up at 9:30 every day and have time to relax before class, but now I wake up at 10:30 and have to rush to get ready. That, my friends, is some serious bull crap.

 

[ecclesand]

It's a conspiracy I tells ya....a conspiracy! All your watches are belongs to me!!!

 

[manaox2]

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Originally Posted by Zarathustra19 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm really indifferent to this issue except for the fact that since we set our clocks forward its been nice to have it stay light later into the night and its been hell to wake up what is really one hour earlier every morning. I used to get up at 9:30 every day and have time to relax before class, but now I wake up at 10:30 and have to rush to get ready. That, my friends, is some serious bull crap.

Oh, pshhaw. I get up at 5 for teaching the class every morning. Many people deal with getting up early, an hour when you have class at something like 11 is no where near bull crap. Time is still the same, its just a pain and confusing for our bodies to adjust. I kind of wish there was more light when I have to drive to work though, it is hard dealing with sleepy people, traffic, and the dark. Cool fact from an actuary there, thanks.

 

[ZepFloyd]

how exactly does AZ get away with not having it? did they just pass legislation in the state that was like screw DST?

 

[krmathis]

It makes no sense to me either.
Whatever they do there will always be more daylight hours in the summer than in the winter.

 

[jilgiljongiljing]

x2 on everything. The whole thing is just plain dumb, and a waste of time, yes literally, a waste of time.

 

[Uncle Erik]

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Originally Posted by ZepFloyd /img/forum/go_quote.gif how exactly does AZ get away with not having it? did they just pass legislation in the state that was like screw DST?

Yes. It might be worth introducing a ballot measure here in California, or other states with the mechanism, to dump DST. You'd think business would get behind it since adjusting hours is such a pain. And I don't know anyone who actually seems to like DST.

The very worst part of DST is for cats. They're used to being fed before I go to work and when I get home. They KNOW when feeding time is. Shift that an hour and you get some unhappy cats.

 

[Mister Crash]

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Originally Posted by sejarzo As a similarly quantitatively-minded engineer, it seems odd to me that there would not be an offsetting decline--are you saying that accidents go up due to more folks commuting to work in the dark on that particular Monday, but that there isn't an increase in accidents on the first Monday after the return to Standard Time, when more people drive back home in the dark?

I believe that the rise in accidents is due to loss of sleep as opposed to brightness/darkness. The hour lost in spring results in a lot of people getting one hour less sleep. The rise in accidents actually seems to happen in the evening commute, when it is still light out. When an hour is gained in autumn, people don't necessarily get an extra hour's sleep, and even if they did, that might not translate into better driving the next day.

Marginal Revolution: Does daylight savings time kill people?

 

[devin_mm]

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Originally Posted by Mister Crash /img/forum/go_quote.gif I believe that the rise in accidents is due to loss of sleep as opposed to brightness/darkness. The hour lost in spring results in a lot of people getting one hour less sleep. The rise in accidents actually seems to happen in the evening commute, when it is still light out. When an hour is gained in autumn, people don't necessarily get an extra hour's sleep, and even if they did, that might not translate into better driving the next day. Marginal Revolution: Does daylight savings time kill people?

I have read the increase in accedents is due to people not remembering to change their clocks then rushing to catch up.

 

[Todd R]

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Originally Posted by sejarzo /img/forum/go_quote.gif But didn't the counties near Cincinnati and Louisville "informally" observe DST for a few years? I live in far NW Indiana, just 30 mi from downtown Chicago, so we've always observed Daylight Time (as they have down near Evansville.) My father-in-law lives in Elkhart, and that area was just as messed up as yours, because a lot of employees lived in MI and didn't like getting off work at 6 PM Michigan time because Elkhart stayed on Standard Time. My sister lives in suburban Indy, and we got used to the fact that all of our extended families throughout the state were on the same time during the summer, when we did most of the traveling to visit. However, I had no idea that the counties just north of Louisville were informally (maybe?) observing EDT and ended up getting there an hour late for something back around 2000 or 2001, as I recall.

I'm glad Indiana started cooperating with the rest of the country (come on AZ!) and began to observe DST.
I live near the border and trying to keep everyone coordinated with which clock they were watching was a pain.

Also, when I was working in Michigan, trying to do business with Indiana companies we had another problem.
We had to wait an hour for them to open, we went home an hour before they closed, add in 2 lunch hours at different times, and you have cut an 8 hr business day effectively down to 4 hrs.
Didn't get much done.

 

[Todd R]

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Originally Posted by devin_mm /img/forum/go_quote.gif I have read the increase in accedents is due to people not remembering to change their clocks then rushing to catch up.

That's exactly it.

 

[muz640]

Same in the UK, its just the governments way of messing with your mind.

 

[shigzeo]

well, someday the world will be done in one way or another. we won't have to worry much then.

 

[NightWoundsTime]

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Originally Posted by jayehs /img/forum/go_quote.gif Thanks to the US, Canada had to change as well :S Not to mention the havoc it caused in the IT world, making us scramble to release patches to account for the new changes in the DST.

My friend moved into a house a little over a year ago and in a round of improvements installed a timed switch for his outside light. It was a fancy digital deal, and he was all excited about it changing to DST on its own.

Me: "Really? Is it already set up for the new DST in like a week or the normal change in April?"

Long pause....

Him: "Son of a bitch."

 

[bhd812]

I am glad others feel the same way about this subject. like i said i am up for keep the hour up but then dont move it back later or either or. people have to make time more complicated for no reason, like AM and PM when GMT is split into 12 hour time. why spilt the 24 hour clock? its not like your saving anything by doing it cause those 24 hours are there either way. if anything all your doing is adding more into it with AM and PM...ok i won't start on this subject cause i could go on and on.




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Originally Posted by NightWoundsTime /img/forum/go_quote.gif My friend moved into a house a little over a year ago and in a round of improvements installed a timed switch for his outside light. It was a fancy digital deal, and he was all excited about it changing to DST on its own. Me: "Really? Is it already set up for the new DST in like a week or the normal change in April?" Long pause.... Him: "Son of a bitch."

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