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Have you owned or heard the H6 2nd generation? Just curious how the tuning of the P9 compares, other than the bass.I see the OP has yet to make up his mind on his next closed back basshead headphone, lol. It's always good to take your time and do lots of research before parting with your cash, even when the expense is no object. Always a wise idea to conduct plenty of research pre purchase. If I may add something of a physics hint/tip, to help out,- bigger headphone transducers (or drivers), particularly in dynamic type headphones, tend to emit larger quantities of bass than headphones with average/small sized transducers, due to the larger surface area of the transducers, there is more flexible material for the voice coil to work with and more air for it to utilise, so headphones with 50mm transducers and larger, will emit larger quantities of bass even if their overall sound signature is balanced. There are a few extremely well designed headphones with average sized transducers (40mm) that do output large quantities of bass, such as the B&W P9 Signature and of course the Ultrasone P900 (I think the transducers in the P900 are around 45mm - 47mm). The transducers in the B&W P9 Signature where developed and engineered in-house by B&W engineers, they designed it from scratch, using a revolutionary new voice coil design and the fibonacci sequence pattern on the material the transducers are made of, this enabled the 40mm transducers in the P9 Signature to output the same levels of bass as headphones with much bigger transducers, but also allowed for clarity in the mids and high frequencies. I stand by my recommendation of the P9 Signature.
Would that be the Bang and Olufsen H6 you are referring to? if so, I have only heard/owned the first gen H6, and the P9 Signature is in another league altogether, imho. P9 Signature sounded like summit fi, to my ears. The P9 really does have bass to rival the likes of the Fostex biocellulose headphones, imo, except without the bloated-ness. I liked the H6 when it came out around 2013/2014, and at the time I was amazed by it, I thought it was a really neutral, balanced headphone I think it was one of the first to have angled drivers/transducers. But it can't produce anywhere near the amount of bass that the P9 Signature can. Add to that that imaging and soundstage (P9 Signature has angled drivers/transducers too) are much better on the P9 Signature too. To me, the H6 first gen I had was like a closed back Sennheiser HD600; very neutral, balanced, detailed and crisp, clear high frequencies, one of those friendly headphones that has a tuning to suite most peoples tastes, whereas the P9 Signature was like a ferrari in comparison,- even clearer across the whole frequency spectrum, with even more detail in the bass, mids and highs, but a warmer tuning (whilst still sounding well balanced). The bass of the P9 Signature is imo not overbearing to the rest of it's frequency spectrum (the mids and highs).Have you owned or heard the H6 2nd generation? Just curious how the tuning of the P9 compares, other than the bass.
Yes, the H6 is rather neutral. It's honestly one of the best closed backs I've heard under 500 dollars, and I've owned several. The lower mids need some EQ work, but the headphones respond well. I'm not a basshead, but I do appreciate a little extra thump. I'm also not a fan of ANC or Bluetooth listening. I had my H6 modded, so I can now use them balanced.Would that be the Bang and Olufsen H6 you are referring to? if so, I have only heard/owned the first gen H6, and the P9 Signature is in another league altogether, imho. P9 Signature sounded like summit fi, to my ears. The P9 really does have bass to rival the likes of the Fostex biocellulose headphones, imo, except without the bloated-ness. I liked the H6 when it came out around 2013/2014, and at the time I was amazed by it, I thought it was a really neutral, balanced headphone I think it was one of the first to have angled drivers/transducers. But it can't produce anywhere near the amount of bass that the P9 Signature can. Add to that that imaging and soundstage (P9 Signature has angled drivers/transducers too) are much better on the P9 Signature too. To me, the H6 first gen was like a closed back Sennheiser HD600.
No, I don't own those headphones, I would not recommend something I don't own or haven't heard my self.
What I was trying to explain to you was people have different sources and audio thru them varies, plus the amplifier too, and after reading thru your thread I came to the conclusion that maybe the SONY MDR Z1R which has the same 70mm driver as the Sony MDR-XB1000 but tuned for more than just bass, 4 Hz–120,000 Hz Vs. XB1000 Frequency Response of 2 Hz-30,000Hz. If you don't mind used headphones, there are some on ebay being sold right now for no more than 500 USD. Here's a link Sony XB1000.
Here's a silly demonstration of what they do (if amped and EQ bass)SONY MDR XB1000 :
And here is one of the SONY MDR Z1R:
And the Campfire Cascade was another recommend I though would help, punchy bass and its a recommended basshead headphone from what I know as is less expensive at $799 USD with 42mm Beryllium Drivers.
Good luck in your search!