Chord Mojo 2 Thread ___ [product released January 31, 2022 -- starting on page 95 of thread]

[gowthe]

My totally awesome western Canadian dealer is getting a shipment next week. Fingers crossed I have mine a week today! I know I have one allocate.

Would you mind telling me who this is? I'm in BC and would like to demo it. Thanks.

 

[VancityDreaming]

Would you mind telling me who this is? I'm in BC and would like to demo it. Thanks.

I contacted hifi center in Vancouver, and they said they wont have demo units in store.

 

[gowthe]

I contacted hifi center in Vancouver, and they said they wont have demo units in store.

LOL.. I called them yesterday and they said the same.

 

[ubs28]

I guess you guys can try it with the Poly and see if it fixes your noise issues?

 

[ChrisGB]

The white noise issue isn't exclusive to Mac use, I've experienced it with a Windows laptop. I thought it was driver related as the number of occurrences related to the driver settings. Also had the issue playing DSD256 track from DAP, but not with any other file format or sampling frequency / bit depth, only DSD256.

 

[Rob Watts]

In theory there really should not be such a change in frequency response between M1 and M2 that you could EQ one to the other. That would be shocking. A DAC should still output flat....

The measured frequency response of Mojo and Mojo 2 (with EQ and cross-feed off) are identical. The issue here is perceived frequency response and that is something very different. Very small distortions/aberrations/errors can dramatically change your subjective impressions. Remember, what you hear is not the output from your ears but the result of your brain processing the sound to create the audible illusion. Errors that interfere with this process can dramatically change the perceived tonal balance.

Mojo's warmth compared to Mojo 2 is down to reduced LF distortion and aberrations from dielectric absorption in the coupling capacitors that have been removed from Mojo 2 by using my digital DC servo. Result - tighter more accurate bass, but the tonal balance is leaner - you can get the same tonal impression of Mojo by boosting the bass shelf by a few dB's on Mojo 2.

 

[Mr X]

Thoughts after a few days from a reluctant buyer

I was fond of my OG Mojo and Poly but sold both a whole ago when I moved to Hugo2Go set up as no need to be portable anymore and wanted even better sound.

Had absolutely NO intention or need of buying but after reading reviews got intrigued.

So got one a few days and and soooo impressed with it, I'm not sure my Hugo set up is going to get any love for a while.

The ability to change the EQ without any degradation to sound is amazing. It's like tuning your particular headphones in. To me it's a game changer.

When I first watched the video the menu and all the colours seemed really confusing but trust me you just get it in seconds.

My only real regret was selling my Poly as I went out yesterday and bought one. Great service again from Richer Sounds who got a V3 direct from Chord for me within 48 hours and colour wise I’ve been lucky it’s a good match.

Now I want to get back to IEMs for on the go so open to recommendations (previously used Shure 846's but sold those too)

Really pair well with Oppo PM1
Have not got around to testing with B&W P9

 

[ChrisGB]

Thoughts after a few days from a reluctant buyer

I was fond of my OG Mojo and Poly but sold both ago when I moved to Hugo2Go set up as no need to be portable and wanted even better sound.

Had absolutely NO intention or need of buying but after reading reviews got intrigued.

So got one a few days and and soooo impressed with it, I'm not sure my Hugo set up is going to get any love for a while.

The ability to change the EQ without any degradation to sound is amazing. It's like tuning your particular headphones in. To me it's a game changer.

When I first watched the video the menu and all the colours seemed really confusing but trust me you just get it in seconds.

My only real regret was selling my Poly as I went out yesterday and bought one. Great service again from Richer Sounds who got a V3 direct from Chord for me within 48 hours and colour wise I’ve been lucky it’s a good match.

Now I want to get back to IEMs for on the go so open to recommendations (previously used Shure 846's but sold those too)

Really pair well with Oppo PM1
Have not got around to testing with B&W P9

This post confuses me somewhat. I've not long had the Mojo 2 and good though it is, I feel I'm losing quite a bit of subtle detail (I'll post my impressions separately) so I'm seriously considering a Hugo 2. I like detail!

 

[Mr X]

This post confuses me somewhat. I've not long had the Mojo 2 and good though it is, I feel I'm losing quite a bit of subtle detail (I'll post my impressions separately) so I'm seriously considering a Hugo 2. I like detail!

I need more time with it but after about 2 weeks I’m going to swap back to the Hugo2Go to see what I’ve been missing.

But right now the fine tuning feels like it’s helping me to extract more detail in the way My ears like it so I like the ability to do that.

Could be pseudo right now but time and swapping back should tell.

 

[546687]

I'm going on lockdown for six months, so I will not stick around.

But when I had white noise issues with Chord products, it was due to encoding issues.

So maybe try re-encoding from .flac to .wav, compressed flac to no compression flac. Try Redbook only. Some Hires are finicky. But anytime I experienced White Noise it was an encoding issue on my side, not the hardware. And a good percentage was Hires. I don't recall ever having an encoding problem with Redbook. DSD was particularly troublesome too. In the end, I stuck with Redbook only and gave up troubleshooting the issue.

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Also, please post here if anyone successfully uses a USB-C optical or Thunderbolt optical for the Mojo2. I have a place I can get a short 6-inch USB-C optical cable.

I exclusively only use sources with a real-time kernel and optical cabling. I refuse bland operating systems not dedicated to SQ and sub-par playback software along with refusing to use cooper wiring.

Redbook sounds amazing on optical cabling, so it's a deal breaker if optical cabling is not in the chain.

So I'll search here in 6 months if anyone has had success with USB optical cables with the USB-C Mojo2 Data Jack.

I'm currently using a USB optical cable with Hugo2, but that's micro-USB. USB-C should be more rugged on the road.

My portable source in 6 months should be a Steam Deck as I can run a real-time low latency kernel (needs CPU power) and runs DDR5 (SQ benefits + load whole OS in RAM):



USB-C port on top. Planning on slapping the Mojo2 on the back with velcro. I can dual boot into my Summit-Fi Audiophile OS when needed. Watch videos, play games with Mojo2 Audio Output the other half of time. USB-C optical will be right-angle on top.

 

[Baten]

The measured frequency response of Mojo and Mojo 2 (with EQ and cross-feed off) are identical. The issue here is perceived frequency response and that is something very different. Very small distortions/aberrations/errors can dramatically change your subjective impressions. Remember, what you hear is not the output from your ears but the result of your brain processing the sound to create the audible illusion. Errors that interfere with this process can dramatically change the perceived tonal balance.

Mojo's warmth compared to Mojo 2 is down to reduced LF distortion and aberrations from dielectric absorption in the coupling capacitors that have been removed from Mojo 2 by using my digital DC servo. Result - tighter more accurate bass, but the tonal balance is leaner - you can get the same tonal impression of Mojo by boosting the bass shelf by a few dB's on Mojo 2.

Thanks for (trying to) explain it to me as best as you could Rob. I've never experienced such pronounced difference (few dBs) but only much more subtle, so maybe I'm deaf to these intricacies.

 

[masterpfa]

Has anyone tried the Mojo 2 in the Mojo case? Have noticed it's not too different. While some folk are cheesed-off at having to shell out for another case for i.e. Poly/Mojo 2 case.

I think Mojo 2 would fit mojo case and show all buttons bar one volume button. However if one were prepared to carefully 'mod' the case, I think it would work fine. ... Though probs best to sell old case and buy new one.

I for one would prefer a case like the style of the Chord official cases from Mojo generation. (The sort of leather-backed rubber ones, with a clean finish.) Am not so hot over the Mojo 2 red stiched ones.

100% agree, I much prefer the mojo poly case I have with the leather covered plastic (rubber) I am not a fan of the red stiched version currently available.

 

[masterpfa]

My Chord Mojo 2 is live, versus the Gryphon & Xduoo XD05 BAL. The Xduoo has upgraded op amps, a pair of Burson V5i-D. Happy to answer any questions .

Thanks for the video, I was unaware of the other 2 DACS, especially as I have been away from Head Fi for some time, I only found out about the announcement of the upcoming Chord device 24hrs beforehand. I jumped in straight away and I am currently enjoying my Mojo2/Poly combo .

PS Great video regarding the Pixel 6 Pro

 

[masterpfa]

"Redbook sounds amazing on optical cabling, so it's a deal breaker if optical cabling is not in the chain."

I have read the rest of your original post which is very interesting especially your set up, but I agree with this comment above

Currently my CD player is packed away but my best experience with equipment I own was
Marantz CD-63 connected via Tos-link to my Mojo listening via Sennheiser HD800

 

[masterpfa]

Using the same music file in each of the following scenarios, which should theoretically result in the best sound?
playing from an SD card in the Poly
playing from iPhone (wired)
playing from an android device (wired)
streaming from iPhone to Poly (via airplay)
streaming from an android device to Poly (lossless bluetooth)

I prefer playing from SD on Poly personally (less connections in the chain)

As I have the Poly the only other streaming I do is from Qobuz or Tidal using Mconnect or BubbleUPnP