[Layman1]

Funny..

For those unfamiliar:
the character or quality of a musical sound or voice as distinct from its pitch and intensity.

Cheers

 
I made an equally lame joke over on the Onkyo DP-X1 thread earlier which also was positively received
To paraphrase The Cat from sci-fi comedy series Red Dwarf:
"Two funny jokes in the same lifetime?! When your're hot, you're hot!"

 
Have to say, even as a native speaker I don't understand what timbre describes (despite having read your post above)?
I play guitar at lower intermediate level, but I'm self-taught and as yet haven't studied any musical theory.
Is it possible you could explain with more examples what it means?
It could be useful to the thread anyway, in terms of something to look out for when listening to Mojo for the first time!

 

[Rob Watts]

If you change the strings of your guitar, the tonal colour will change so going from nylon to steel can make a brighter sound. The sound of different strings is the timbre. Another example, a sax sounds rich it has a dark timbre; but a trumpet is sharp and has a bright timbre.

The problem with dacs is they add there own timbre so all instruments sound the same with less variations in timbre.

Pronouncing it some say timber some say tambre... In the UK the Google translate says timber but I am not sure which pronunciation is correct. Since its source is French, perhaps tambre...
Rob

 

[Mython]

  Hi, PLEASE can someone provide a link to a site that has a short micro B to micro B co axial cable,or interconnect, in stock in the UK or eu. Preferably about 10 or 15cm in length.I have tried using links at the beginning of this thread but it takes you back to the first page. My eyes are giving me hell trying to focus, due to meds. I just want to connect my Ap100 to the mojo. TIA.

 
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No matter.
 
There are not very many cables available which suit our needs well, especially in the UK, but you can try Phil, at CustomCable:
 
www.head-fi.org/t/784602/chord-mojo-the-official-thread-please-read-the-3rd-post/4110#post_12055475
 
* Please take note that you need to specify exactly what plugs and length you require.
 
 
 

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Occasionally, a cheap Chinese cable can be found on eBay or Amazon, but it's quite hit-or-miss (particularly on the UK sites), in terms of availability, and it's not always clear whether or not co-axial cable is employed in these.
 
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[wym2]

If you change the strings of your guitar, the tonal colour will change so going from nylon to steel can make a brighter sound. The sound of different strings is the timbre. Another example, a sax sounds rich it has a dark timbre; but a trumpet is sharp and has a bright timbre.

The problem with dacs is they add there own timbre so all instruments sound the same with less variations in timbre.

Pronouncing it some say timber some say tambre... In the UK the Google translate says timber but I am not sure which pronunciation is correct. Since its source is French, perhaps tambre...
Rob

 
Either is fine. 

 

[U2nite]

If you change the strings of your guitar, the tonal colour will change so going from nylon to steel can make a brighter sound. The sound of different strings is the timbre. Another example, a sax sounds rich it has a dark timbre; but a trumpet is sharp and has a bright timbre.

The problem with dacs is they add there own timbre so all instruments sound the same with less variations in timbre.
....
Rob

 
Rob, John,
 
Big thank you for making the timbre in Mojo, Hugo, Dave so live like.
 
I'm listening to Nickel Creek's This Side album - Smoothie Song (DSD64) Now. Amazing instruments. I feel like jamming with the band!

 

[GreenBow]

  Cheers

 
I made an equally lame joke over on the Onkyo DP-X1 thread earlier which also was positively received
To paraphrase The Cat from sci-fi comedy series Red Dwarf:
"Two funny jokes in the same lifetime?! When your're hot, you're hot!"

 
Have to say, even as a native speaker I don't understand what timbre describes (despite having read your post above)?
I play guitar at lower intermediate level, but I'm self-taught and as yet haven't studied any musical theory.
Is it possible you could explain with more examples what it means?
It could be useful to the thread anyway, in terms of something to look out for when listening to Mojo for the first time!

Timbre is the difference in sound of different intruments. A piano and a trumpet playing the same note sound completely different, and that is the timbre of each instrument.
 
It's actually easier to understand when you understand the theory. Take a note on the piano of 440Hz. That is the note A, just above middle C. However that component of the note is not all there is to hear. If you listen carefully you can hear higher pitched compontent noises, which are called overtones.
 
Overtones are at multiples of the base frequency of 440Hz. In other words the first overtone (or what we also call harmonics) is at 880Hz. That being 2 x 440Hz, and it is also a note A an octave above the base frequency of the note. In other words the note A at base frequency 440Hz is made up of vibrations at 440Hz and 880hz and onwards upwards.
 
It continues upwards and the next octave of note A is 3x440Hz which is the second overtone. This is A at 1320Hz, two octaves above the base frequency of the note.
 
On the piano the quantity of the overtones are what makes the sound of the piano. On the trumpet the quantities of each overtone are different, and that is what makes the sound of the trumpet. E.g the volume of the second overtone on the piano may be louder than the second overtone on the trumpet. This continues for all the overtones above the base note. That is what makes timbre, or an instrument's unique 'sound'.

 

[tuna47]

Just got the mojo a few hours listening time sounds great very happy
How do I get hd from an I phone any good apps

 

[Layman1]

 
Timbre is the difference in sound of different intruments. A piano and a trumpet playing the same note sound completely different, and that is the timbre of each instrument.
 
It's actually easier to understand when you understand the theory. Take a note on the piano of 440Hz. That is the note A, just above middle C. However that component of the note is not all there is to hear. If you listen carefully you can hear higher pitched compontent noises, which are called overtones.
 
Overtones are at multiples of the base frequency of 440Hz. In other words the first overtone (or what we also call harmonics) is at 880Hz. That being 2 x 440Hz, and it is also a note A an octave above the base frequency of the note. In other words the note A at base frequency 440Hz is made up of vibrations at 440Hz and 880hz and onwards upwards.
 
It continues upwards and the next octave of note A is 3x440Hz which is the second overtone. This is A at 1320Hz, two octaves above the base frequency of the note.
 
On the piano the quantity of the overtones are what makes the sound of the piano. On the trumpet the quantities of each overtone are different, and that is what makes the sound of the trumpet. E.g the volume of the second overtone on the piano may be louder than the second overtone on the trumpet. This continues for all the overtones above the base note. That is what makes timbre, or an instrument's unique 'sound'.

 
This is brilliant! What Rob said was extremely helpful to me as a guitar player; now I can get what 'timbre' is about.
 
Regarding your post, it's a very long story but basically, I have learning disabilities (dyslexia, dyspraxia etc; undiagnosed as a child), left school not even knowing how to multiply or divide, and many years later, ended up studying as a mature student at uni. Started out doing theoretical physics and ended up switching to engineering at Durham uni. I actually had to withdraw from the course for personal reasons but I remember sitting through physics lectures on 'waves and oscillations', but could never really connect it to real life. Your example above was very useful! 

 
in fact, being on this forum has reignited my passion for such knowledge in the last week or two, even more so with electronics. I hear people (like Rob for example) talking about digital signal processing, DACs, amps and the related technology and configurations, and feel annoyed that I can't understand much of it (and am not sure which areas of electronics I should study in order to do so, which is doubly annoying as it's a huge subject area lol).
So I feel rather motivated to start studying again and hopefully gain a deeper understanding of what it's all about

 

[Layman1]

Just got the mojo a few hours listening time sounds great very happy
How do I get hd from an I phone any good apps

I'm no expert on such matters, but I heard Onkyo have an app that lets you listen to FLAC files etc.
Plus there are of course apps with HD music streaming services such as Tidal.
Hope this helps! Enjoy the Mojo. My mission this year is to save up and get one too lol

 

[alan_g]

my mojo just keeps on getting better and better every day even so much so ive not switched my home hifi on since getting it...

 

[VGoghs earfrmsc]

   
It sounds as though your browser may have javascript disabled or currently unsupported.
 
No matter.
 
There are not very many cables available which suit our needs well, especially in the UK, but you can try Phil, at CustomCable:
 
www.head-fi.org/t/784602/chord-mojo-the-official-thread-please-read-the-3rd-post/4110#post_12055475
 
* Please take note that you need to specify exactly what plugs and length you require.
 
 
 

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Occasionally, a cheap Chinese cable can be found on eBay or Amazon, but it's quite hit-or-miss (particularly on the UK sites), in terms of availability, and it's not always clear whether or not co-axial cable is employed in these.
 
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  my mojo just keeps on getting better and better every day even so much so ive not switched my home hifi on since getting it...

thanls  for trying Mython but thays far too expensive for me.
Does anyone have experience of how to connect Hidizs AP100 to the mojo.  Even where a supplier of micto B to Micro B are in the UK, or Europe, or a cheapish coaxial cable will do. TIA

 

[NaiveSound]

I have a slight space right by my headphone jack in my mojo, is very little.. I wonder if normal, I hope I have a decent built mojo

I'll Post a picture tonight t

 

[Mython]

   
thanls  for trying Mython but thays far too expensive for me.
Does anyone have experience of how to connect Hidizs AP100 to the mojo.  Even where a supplier of micto B to Micro B are in the UK, or Europe, or a cheapish coaxial cable will do. TIA

 
Someone might come-up trumps for you, but it's quite specialist, at this point in time, so it takes time for such a niche product to become widespread in the marketplace.
 
 
If you're willing to widen your search area, you could buy direct from HongKong, via eBay USA (I can't find this item listed on the UK site):
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10cm-Right-Angle-to-Left-Angle-Micro-USB-Host-OTG-Cable-4-DAC-Digital-Amplifier-/301669713346?hash=item463cea85c2:g:m3wAAOSwZjJVAUdu
 
or, if you're feeling particularly intrepid, you could even have a look on TaoBao:
 
www.head-fi.org/t/784602/chord-mojo-the-official-thread-please-read-the-3rd-post/10245#post_12295663
 
 
However, I am unfamiliar with the Hidizs AP100 - does it actually support digital-out via microUSB? I assumed it was only via traditional co-ax.

 

[Ike1985]

Just realized that when I get my S7 my biggest problem with a Mojo setup (phone always dies first) will be solved, S7 has wireless charging. Now they'll be no end to my Mojo'ing! Wonder if the wireless charging will cause EMI/RF?  RF/EMI couldn't be worse than my current shoddy iphone 5, it gets 1 bar and as a result goes MAX RF all the time trying to find a signal.  Plus expandable memory..I belive S7 will be perfect phone for Mojo.

 

[masterpfa]

  This is my first post on head-fi, I had to do it since trying finally the mojo.
 
Keep in mind I pair it with the se846  with custom tips made in japan and iphone 6s+, that being my main form for listening to music.
 
Unfortunately it was a let down trying the mojo, specially after rearing all the hype from it. Maybe with other more demanding headphones the mojo will shine but not with the se846.
 
There was an improvement in audio, yes, but not at all a 600 euro improvement. 
 
If I were to quantify the improvement, I would say it was 10% at max (while really looking for the difference) to almost nothing on other types of songs.
 
In fact I would say I was more impressed with the JVC SU-AX7 with some others genres of music while being much cheaper.
 
Im not sure how is in other countries but I live in Japan and here the electronic stores allow you to try all kind of audio equipment, rows and rows, from amps to headphones, cheap to expensive, as much as you want and after hrs unfortunately the mojo didnt win me over.
 
Im not saying is bad , Im just cautioning people if they intent to buy it and use them along the se846, dont expect great results.

Shame to hear, might be High Expectations. How are you listening to music on you iPhone 6+, if you haven't yet maybe try Onkyo HF Player along with your current set up.
My experience was completely different to yours and I noticed and enjoyed the difference from my previous set up immediately and it just keeps getting better. I personally find reasons to listen to music now where as before it was really only for my commute to work.
 
As always IMO and YMMV

PS. Have you allowed for Brain Burn in? 

 

   
Naïve is that you

 
Sorry couldn't resist
 
Seriously though I think you are in the minority with that last statement as nearly everyone else thinks the Mojo/SE846 combination is superb

PMSL, ROFL 

 

  my mojo just keeps on getting better and better every day even so much so ive not switched my home hifi on since getting it...

Ohhhhh Yes