Chord Mojo(1) DAC-amp ☆★►FAQ in 3rd post!◄★☆

Feb 27, 2021 at 4:49 PM Post #41,161 of 42,916
I have seen it myself with a chip in a cheap and expensive device, but not often. However I barely ever look over other DACs, because they never meet up to Chord DACs in reviews or opinion. In general I have zero idea what DAC chip is in which brand devices.

I think the time I saw it recently was in the REMI ADI-2-DAC. I looked up what it was using for DA conversion because it was reviewing well. I was curious to see if used proprietory coding and processor like Rob's work. It was an stock DAC chip though, but I was curious because of the hype around the ADI-2. During my search of that that DAC chip I spotted it in other devices.

On the other hand, I can completely understand why people buy other brand DACs too.


When I said why not google your question, I mean what I sadi in that sentence. Not different priced DACs using the same chips. .. I thought that was obvious.

Anyway whatever, this is the Mojo thread, so I feel I am done.

I can understand it too. Chord dacs are excellent but there are some things they could be doing better.

1. Styling. Please give the colored balls back to the eighties. (I happen to be color blind which deepens my hate of the colored balls.)

2. Ergonomics. These dacs are usually very simple so why complicate things?

3. Build quality. I know this varies among the Chord dacs but I have had a Mojo and I felt that the build quality was dismal for the amount of money the thing costs.

4. Value for money. These things are just too expensive. Chord needs to overhaul their business model and decide whether they want to be a high end, limited production boutique brand or something that appeals to the wider market, as in hundreds of thousands of even millions of people. Chord is producing products that should have mass appeal but they seem to be hamstrung by sticking to their high end business model. (Saying that I would personally not mind paying the price they are currently asking if items 1, 2 and 3 were fixed.)

And while I am here, some "stock dacs" are actually quite good. If you compare dac A vs dac B and they both have the same stock dac chip, then obviously any difference you hear is due to the implementation.
 
Feb 27, 2021 at 5:55 PM Post #41,162 of 42,916
I can understand it too. Chord dacs are excellent but there are some things they could be doing better.

1. Styling. Please give the colored balls back to the eighties. (I happen to be color blind which deepens my hate of the colored balls.)

2. Ergonomics. These dacs are usually very simple so why complicate things?

3. Build quality. I know this varies among the Chord dacs but I have had a Mojo and I felt that the build quality was dismal for the amount of money the thing costs.

4. Value for money. These things are just too expensive. Chord needs to overhaul their business model and decide whether they want to be a high end, limited production boutique brand or something that appeals to the wider market, as in hundreds of thousands of even millions of people. Chord is producing products that should have mass appeal but they seem to be hamstrung by sticking to their high end business model. (Saying that I would personally not mind paying the price they are currently asking if items 1, 2 and 3 were fixed.)

And while I am here, some "stock dacs" are actually quite good. If you compare dac A vs dac B and they both have the same stock dac chip, then obviously any difference you hear is due to the implementation.

I personally think the balls are a huge, huge, huge part of Chord's success. Styling matters to people and credit is due for innovating a truly unique design. I particularly enjoy the fact that the colors change as the freq sampling rate changes.

I also think the build quality of the Mojo is outstanding. I took it apart to remove the battery and was impressed how precise the casing parts fit together. I simply cannot agree on that point.

One more point, just because you don't like the balls (i would argue that you are in the minority) or ergonomics of Chord products doesn't mean that Chord needs to overhaul their (incredible successful) business model.

If i could have things my way i would like to see a desktop sized Mojo.
 
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Feb 27, 2021 at 7:48 PM Post #41,164 of 42,916
I am happy to see that someone likes the balls. The are just not for me.
I don't like the look, the balls, the lot - fortunate it sounds good and functions well.
styling is a personal thing, but in this case, it has actually caused Mojo to be thicker and heavier than it would otherwise have been.
I take lighter and thinner every time, over styling.
 
Feb 27, 2021 at 8:48 PM Post #41,165 of 42,916
I am happy to see that someone likes the balls. The are just not for me.

That's specifically why I haven't purchased a Mojo. :ksc75smile:
 
Feb 27, 2021 at 10:19 PM Post #41,166 of 42,916
... I took it apart to remove the battery ...
Can you please explain? You took out the battery and use the Mojo as a desktop dac or get a new one in? Does the Mojo work with no battery inside?
 
Feb 27, 2021 at 10:34 PM Post #41,167 of 42,916
Can you please explain? You took out the battery and use the Mojo as a desktop dac or get a new one in? Does the Mojo work with no battery inside?
Yes, i use it as a desktop DAC without the battery inside.
 
Feb 28, 2021 at 4:55 AM Post #41,168 of 42,916
I am happy to see that someone likes the balls. The are just not for me.

I think many like the design and overall aesthetics of the Chord gear. I now have the TT2 and still not letting go of the Mojo and Hugo2, despite the disappearance of travel.
 
Feb 28, 2021 at 8:56 PM Post #41,169 of 42,916
I can understand it too. Chord dacs are excellent but there are some things they could be doing better.

1. Styling. Please give the colored balls back to the eighties. (I happen to be color blind which deepens my hate of the colored balls.)

2. Ergonomics. These dacs are usually very simple so why complicate things?

3. Build quality. I know this varies among the Chord dacs but I have had a Mojo and I felt that the build quality was dismal for the amount of money the thing costs.

4. Value for money. These things are just too expensive. Chord needs to overhaul their business model and decide whether they want to be a high end, limited production boutique brand or something that appeals to the wider market, as in hundreds of thousands of even millions of people. Chord is producing products that should have mass appeal but they seem to be hamstrung by sticking to their high end business model. (Saying that I would personally not mind paying the price they are currently asking if items 1, 2 and 3 were fixed.)

And while I am here, some "stock dacs" are actually quite good. If you compare dac A vs dac B and they both have the same stock dac chip, then obviously any difference you hear is due to the implementation.
i mostly disagree. i do think aesthetics could improve on SOME of their products but i think they do have many options at reasonable price points. theres not many DACs better than chord, even on the lower end. i think an M-Scaler plus HugoTT2 competes against much more expensive dacs and truly represents state of the art. is a dCs system that much better? i think not. going lower in the line up, you get mostly the same tech but at much cheaper price points.
 
Mar 1, 2021 at 12:46 PM Post #41,170 of 42,916
i mostly disagree. i do think aesthetics could improve on SOME of their products but i think they do have many options at reasonable price points. theres not many DACs better than chord, even on the lower end. i think an M-Scaler plus HugoTT2 competes against much more expensive dacs and truly represents state of the art. is a dCs system that much better? i think not. going lower in the line up, you get mostly the same tech but at much cheaper price points.

Yes, Mscaler etc. is great but but I could just never have something that looks like that in my house.
 

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