[paul2qute]

My current opinion of Chord is that they do
- hardware very well
- core software very well
- have been less than effective with mobile apps and user interfaces.

I pretty much gave up trying to get the Poly working smoothly for now. Planning on checking back in in a month or so after a sw update.
Once the Hiby R3 arrives, that'll be my "Poly" substitute until I start seeing positive Poly reviews

The 2Go, I imagine, will work well.

With the extra physical space (larger dimensions) afforded by the 2Go vs. the tiny Poly, my hope is:
- AP client and Hotspot will be much improved.
- DLNA server will have better performance
- Allow for copying and managing songs and playlists on the SD Card wirelessly
- Most of all, I hope the 2Go management software and play control software will be much improved.
- Icing on the cake will be playlist management of SD Card (creating, deleting, manually setting sequence of songs) from within quickplay

Most of these can be done through improvements in software.

Given Chord's track record in impressive hardware and core software, I'm confident that they will get everything perfect soon enough.

My personal opinion which is an insult to John frank's but I think John frank's should employ Rob watts full time,that ain't a knock to John frank's I just think when they work together magic happens in the hi-fi world.We do what's called brainstorming at work,everyone in the room writes things down and some of the less intelligent ppl in the room come up with the best ideas,someone not intelligent or has a trade could turn the hi-fi world on its head by one idea or two

 

[miketlse]

My personal opinion which is an insult to John frank's but I think John frank's should employ Rob watts full time,that ain't a knock to John frank's I just think when they work together magic happens in the hi-fi world.We do what's called brainstorming at work,everyone in the room writes things down and some of the less intelligent ppl in the room come up with the best ideas,someone not intelligent or has a trade could turn the hi-fi world on its head by one idea or two

I think a similar comment was made a long time ago on one of the other Chord threads, and the response at the time was that Chord could not afford to hire RW full time.
A pity in some respects, but maybe RW also enjoys the bit of creative freedom offered by being self-employed, with more than one customer.

 

[paul2qute]

I think a similar comment was made a long time ago on one of the other Chord threads, and the response at the time was that Chord could not afford to hire RW full time.
A pity in some respects, but maybe RW also enjoys the bit of creative freedom offered by being self-employed, with more than one customer.

They good mates so wouldn't think money would be an issue but hey ho

 

[Mython]

My personal opinion which is an insult to John frank's but I think John frank's should employ Rob watts full time,that ain't a knock to John frank's I just think when they work together magic happens in the hi-fi world.We do what's called brainstorming at work,everyone in the room writes things down and some of the less intelligent ppl in the room come up with the best ideas,someone not intelligent or has a trade could turn the hi-fi world on its head by one idea or two

I can see that you didn't explicitly intend to insult anyone, but...



Firstly, Business and Friendship are 2 different things.

They may successfully run simultaneously, in parallel, but they should never be confused with one another. Even with the best of intentions, that can potentially end up being ruinous.

Rob also consults for large silicon chip companies, amongst others, so his continued independence is important essential.

Secondly, as much as I admire and respect Rob and his career (and Rob already knows I do, so I don't need to convince him of this before I say what I'm about to say), I believe that quite a large percentage of Head-Fiers who are aware of the Chord Electronics brand have become aware of it as a consequence of Hugo 1 hitting the personal/portable audio market, so successfully, closely followed by Mojo. DAVE has latterly extended his Head-Fi profile into fullsize 2ch Hi-Fi territory, even though that territory isn't at all new to him. Overall, he has rightly earned a large Head-Fi following, not just for his designs, but also his educational posts on these forums.

However, as you may already be aware, Chord Electronics have been going for many years, in the fullsize Hi-Fi, and Studio markets, and have earned an impressive reputation, especially in the domain of high-end amplifiers. Unquestionably, the driving force behind those amplifier designs has been John Franks, with his background in avionics systems.

So, to be blunt, both these gents are highly-skilled audio equipment designers, and whilst 'magic' does indeed seem to happen when they work together, they each stand tall, in their own right, and John does not deserve to be viewed as a 'lesser' engineer; it's just that John doesn't get so much recognition, amongst Head-Fiers, for his abilities, since his designs are focused on fullsize rather than headphone-based audio.

I haven't been 'put-up' to say this, nor am I being sycophantic, nor am I having a go at you, Paul. I'm simply telling it as I see it. It's been brewing for some time, in my mind, and your post was the final nudge that moved me to comment on the topic. Although he may not be the most pristinely-diplomatic typist on Head-Fi, John seems to be very underestimated by many Head-Fiers who may not be aware of his achievements, pre-Hugo publicity.


Incidentally, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you probably didn't mean to imply that John or Rob are one (or both) of "some of the less intelligent ppl in the room"

 

[miketlse]

I can see that you didn't explicitly intend to insult anyone, but...



Firstly, Business and Friendship are 2 different things.

They may successfully run simultaneously, in parallel, but they should never be confused with one another. Even with the best of intentions, that can potentially end up being ruinous.

Rob also consults for large silicon chip companies, amongst others, so his continued independence is important essential.

Secondly, as much as I admire and respect Rob and his career (and Rob already knows I do, so I don't need to convince him of this before I say what I'm about to say), I believe that quite a large percentage of Head-Fiers who are aware of the Chord Electronics brand have become aware of it as a consequence of Hugo 1 hitting the personal/portable audio market, so successfully, closely followed by Mojo. DAVE has latterly extended his Head-Fi profile into fullsize 2ch Hi-Fi territory, even though that territory isn't at all new to him. Overall, he has rightly earned a large Head-Fi following, not just for his designs, but also his educational posts on these forums.

However, as you may already be aware, Chord Electronics have been going for many years, in the fullsize Hi-Fi, and Studio markets, and have earned an impressive reputation, especially in the domain of high-end amplifiers. Unquestionably, the driving force behind those amplifier designs has been John Franks, with his background in avionics systems.

So, to be blunt, both these gents are highly-skilled audio equipment designers, and whilst 'magic' does indeed seem to happen when they work together, they each stand tall, in their own right, and John does not deserve to be viewed as a 'lesser' engineer; it's just that John doesn't get so much recognition, amongst Head-Fiers, for his abilities, since his designs are focused on fullsize rather than headphone-based audio.

I haven't been 'put-up' to say this, nor am I being sycophantic, nor am I having a go at you, Paul. I'm simply telling it as I see it. It's been brewing for some time, in my mind, and your post was the final nudge that moved me to comment on the topic. Although he may not be the most pristinely-diplomatic typist on Head-Fi, John seems to be very underestimated by many Head-Fiers who may not be aware of his achievements, pre-Hugo publicity.


Incidentally, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you probably didn't mean to imply that John or Rob are one (or both) of "some of the less intelligent ppl in the room"

Well said.
Reminds me of a gentle rebuke I once received from JF, when I once posted mistakenly that the Chord analogue amps were a RW design.
I think it is worth adding that as well as his specialist knowledge in analogue amplifier design, and the famous Chord low noise power supply designs, John also has to daily use his other skills in the multiple transverse management disciplines necessary to successfully run an engineering company.

 

[skypablo]

A question about rca cables for hugo2... Does the qed reference 40 fit the hugo2 or they are too large? Other good rca cables that fit hugo2?
My ricable hi end are too large with their lock system...
Thank you

 

[DiscoveryHead]

I'm currently using The Chord Company's Shawline Digital USB cable ( https://www.chord.co.uk/product/shawline-usb-cable/ ) paired with a Lindy USB B Female to Micro-B Male USB adapter. ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0033QP23I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ) to connect my Hugo 2 with my Macbook Pro. I'm concerned with using the USB adapter and shawline cable because the cable is pretty stiff and together adds quite a fulcrum on the connection which if I'm not careful could damage the Hugo 2. I can't say that I've heard much difference between the shawline cable and the standard cable that is supplied with the Hugo 2.

So, my questions are;

1) Is it, as I surmise, a bad idea to use a bulky adapter on the micro connection of the Hugo 2?
2) Is it worth the bother to use a 'premium' USB cable to anchor the Hugo 2 with the Mac?
3) If it is, are there good cables out there that combine USB B Male to Micro-B Male termination and aren't as 'stiff' as the shawline cable so that I'm not likely to damage my prized Hugo 2?

 

[officerdibble]

1) Is it, as I surmise, a bad idea to use a bulky adapter on the micro connection of the Hugo 2?

This is a question I am also interested in as I also plan to use an adapter when I receive my Hugo 2 this week.....

2) Is it worth the bother to use a 'premium' USB cable to anchor the Hugo 2 with the Mac?

Controversial question! In my experience USB from my Mac Mini has only sounded good with a quality cable and a USB cleaner with decent power supply (I use the Uptone Iso Regen and LPS-1 power supply) - whether I will still need with the Hugo 2 time will tell.....

3) If it is, are there good cables out there that combine USB B Male to Micro-B Male termination and aren't as 'stiff' as the shawline cable so that I'm not likely to damage my prized Hugo 2?

Audioquest do cables with Micro-B terminations and Curious Cables do a Hugo link.

 

[miketlse]

I'm currently using The Chord Company's Shawline Digital USB cable ( https://www.chord.co.uk/product/shawline-usb-cable/ ) paired with a Lindy USB B Female to Micro-B Male USB adapter. ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0033QP23I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ) to connect my Hugo 2 with my Macbook Pro. I'm concerned with using the USB adapter and shawline cable because the cable is pretty stiff and together adds quite a fulcrum on the connection which if I'm not careful could damage the Hugo 2. I can't say that I've heard much difference between the shawline cable and the standard cable that is supplied with the Hugo 2.

So, my questions are;

1) Is it, as I surmise, a bad idea to use a bulky adapter on the micro connection of the Hugo 2?
2) Is it worth the bother to use a 'premium' USB cable to anchor the Hugo 2 with the Mac?
3) If it is, are there good cables out there that combine USB B Male to Micro-B Male termination and aren't as 'stiff' as the shawline cable so that I'm not likely to damage my prized Hugo 2?

My first instinct is that such adapters are potentially bad for the Hugo2, in the same manner that Chord recommended users not to use adapters for the Mojo, because the adapters could enable enough force to be applied to the usb sockets, to prise them off the circuit board.
However there is the proviso that the Mojo advice was most relevant in the context of mobile use, with the adapter continually plugged into the Mojo.
If you will only use your Hugo2 in a desktop mode, with little/no flexing of the adapter in the socket, then maybe your risk will be minimal.

 

[Mython]

1) Is it, as I surmise, a bad idea to use a bulky adapter on the micro connection of the Hugo 2?

You surmised correctly. John Franks commented on microUSB adaptors, in the early days of the Mojo thread:

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/cho...n-3rd-post-◄★☆.784602/page-2381#post-14125930

 

[miketlse]

1) Is it, as I surmise, a bad idea to use a bulky adapter on the micro connection of the Hugo 2?

This is a question I am also interested in as I also plan to use an adapter when I receive my Hugo 2 this week.....

2) Is it worth the bother to use a 'premium' USB cable to anchor the Hugo 2 with the Mac?

Controversial question! In my experience USB from my Mac Mini has only sounded good with a quality cable and a USB cleaner with decent power supply (I use the Uptone Iso Regen and LPS-1 power supply) - whether I will still need with the Hugo 2 time will tell.....

3) If it is, are there good cables out there that combine USB B Male to Micro-B Male termination and aren't as 'stiff' as the shawline cable so that I'm not likely to damage my prized Hugo 2?

Audioquest do cables with Micro-B terminations and Curious Cables do a Hugo link.

Forza have a good reputation.
I use one of their usbc cables with my Mojo, and am satisfied.
Have a look at this cable. Some users complain about Forza premium prices, and state that you can buy perfectly good cables for $3 from Ebay.
Only you can make decisions regarding that criteria.

 

[Jawed]

Expensive USB cables and USB spaghetti gear are a waste of time. Use lots of ferrites on the USB cable that comes with Hugo 2 (about 20, see my sig) or use an optical cable.

Now playing: Meadowlark - Postcards

 

[ecapsretliab]

Controversial question! In my experience USB from my Mac Mini has only sounded good with a quality cable and a USB cleaner with decent power supply (I use the Uptone Iso Regen and LPS-1 power supply) - whether I will still need with the Hugo 2 time will tell.....

I didn't get any benefit using the ISO-Regen. But in a bid to tame brightness in my speaker rig (headphone out was fine). I decided to switch inputs. With an SU-1 to coaxial, the brightness tamed down and I'm a lot happier. I never tried ferrites, wish I did though, might have done as good a job for peanuts. Oh well.

 

[Deftone]

I have visions of me sitting outside sipping a glass of wine,sun cracking the flags and just me the Hugo 2 Chord 2go and my flare pro in ears and my phone as the remote for Roon,could it ever get any better?

I thought you would be more of a white lightning type of guy... if you’re not you will be after buying 2Go

 

[Phronesis]

I didn't read all 803 pages, so I'll just pose my question: am I the only one who finds that the filter button makes very little audible difference? I'm not sure it makes any difference at all. I wonder if my unit is defective.