CHORD ELECTRONICS DAVE

[Mr X]

Let me concur a bit this point of view as with introduction of Mojo 2 the whole Chord product matrix got very complex and complicated. For me it is the Mojo 2 that gives you a lot for this price point making Hugo 2 with limited features set and more than 3x price a bit questionable. Just my 2 cents... Dave is brilliant for critical listening but for musicality and enjoyment TT2 is the way to go for me.

Interesting as I'm toying about with replacing my DAVE with a TT2 to go along with my MScaler - not sure why I juts fancy a change and I've never heard the TT2 - Ideally I will try and loan one first before regretting it!

 

[Yatharth]

Interesting as I'm toying about with replacing my DAVE with a TT2 to go along with my MScaler - not sure why I juts fancy a change and I've never heard the TT2 - Ideally I will try and loan one first before regretting it!

Dave + Mscaler is better option than TT2 + Mscaler so don’t even think about it

 

[FunkyBassMan]

Dave + Mscaler is better option than TT2 + Mscaler so don’t even think about it

Quite true.

 

[Yatharth]

Interesting as I'm toying about with replacing my DAVE with a TT2 to go along with my MScaler - not sure why I juts fancy a change and I've never heard the TT2 - Ideally I will try and loan one first before regretting it!

You must be on drugs if you’re considering replacing your Dave with TT2

 

[FunkyBassMan]

For me, that Amir couldn't hear any differences dissolves any remaining credibility he had. Cult is the appropriate word here for ASR and it's adherents.

Very true.

And, as I politely explained there (not in so many words, of course), to claim "anything that matters can be measured" is pure idiocy. To claim that whatever standards of measurements happen to exist today capture everything about audio almost couldn't be more stupid.

And of course got immediately trashed by people who can't afford Dave or hear that it's good, and instantly banned!

Not sure why they see those of us who like audio gear that sounds good as so evil. I personally can't appreciate very fine wines, but have not a thing against people who can. ASR is a sick bunch of people.

 

[Mr X]

You must be on drugs if you’re considering replacing your Dave with TT2

No I am not on drugs.

 

[TheMiddleSky]

No I am not on drugs.

x2 from me

There is a "coldness effect" in Dave (when direct compared with TT2) that I simply couldn't "unheard" every time I back to Dave. Fully understandable Dave is better if detail is the very main priority.

 

[Icenine2]

They are internal status led's.

Chord can use these for troubledshooting startup sequence etc. when opened.
I believe there are 3 of them at different circuit sections.

I use to peek at it between the display from front to see if Dave's gone in standby after pressing off on remote.

Turns out my Wife was dusting and put it in standby

 

[LisaShayBrown]

Very true.

And, as I politely explained there (not in so many words, of course), to claim "anything that matters can be measured" is pure idiocy. To claim that whatever standards of measurements happen to exist today capture everything about audio almost couldn't be more stupid.

And of course got immediately trashed by people who can't afford Dave or hear that it's good, and instantly banned!

Not sure why they see those of us who like audio gear that sounds good as so evil. I personally can't appreciate very fine wines, but have not a thing against people who can. ASR is a sick bunch of people.

It's so weird they can't hear it.

I def don't have golden ears or anything, but to me the difference between the dave and m-scaler we have now and the one before (a dcs something or other my boyfriend had) is that the other one sounded smooth and pretty but now it sounds like I'm listening to live music all the time, or, like the music used to be clean but now it's organic, like real people are playing right in front of me

 

[GuiltyRocker]

What I learned is that there is no convincing them that you enjoy the Stuff you have and at some point the measurements don't tell you anything, I just don't go to that site and now just enjoy my stuff.

 

[johnwillmclean]

Very true.

And, as I politely explained there (not in so many words, of course), to claim "anything that matters can be measured" is pure idiocy. To claim that whatever standards of measurements happen to exist today capture everything about audio almost couldn't be more stupid.

And of course got immediately trashed by people who can't afford Dave or hear that it's good, and instantly banned!

Not sure why they see those of us who like audio gear that sounds good as so evil. I personally can't appreciate very fine wines, but have not a thing against people who can. ASR is a sick bunch of people.

There may be a difference regarding subjective vs measurement data that does not correlate, for me personally I conclude the phenomenon is linked to susceptibility and the human condition, under a proper controlled test I find it hard to dispute. For example I cannot hear differences between good measuring modern DACs, a Topping, RME and Mola Mola Tambaqui are identical to my ears.

I’m sure the people that trashed your posts were not doing so because they couldn't afford a Dave, they were doing so because they cannot see its value over alternatives 1/10th the cost.

I’m not defending ASR, ASR could have been a much better place to inform and educate instead of using tiresome ridiculing rhetoric, which only serves to divide people. However in saying that the measurement data derived are important value, it may not interest all parties, however a head in the sand approach to measurements and some technicalities may not be the wisest choice when making big investments.

 

[jlbrach]

what it sounds like is all that matters,I get the sense people look at charts first and then decide how it will sound....

 

[FunkyBassMan]

There may be a difference regarding subjective vs measurement data that does not correlate, for me personally I conclude the phenomenon is linked to susceptibility and the human condition, under a proper controlled test I find it hard to dispute. For example I cannot hear differences between good measuring modern DACs, a Topping, RME and Mola Mola Tambaqui are identical to my ears.

I’m sure the people that trashed your posts were not doing so because they couldn't afford a Dave, they were doing so because they cannot see its value over alternatives 1/10th the cost.

I’m not defending ASR, ASR could have been a much better place to inform and educate instead of using tiresome ridiculing rhetoric, which only serves to divide people. However in saying that the measurement data derived are important value, it may not interest all parties, however a head in the sand approach to measurements and some technicalities may not be the wisest choice when making big investments.

Yup.

Also, someone sent me a PM with a screenshot showing that Amir has a deal with Topping. So it all actually sort of makes sense now.

 

[alekc]

Dave + Mscaler is better option than TT2 + Mscaler so don’t even think about it

As always it all very subjective and personal taste dependant. I'm looking for an enjoyment in music hence I can sacrifice some details, sound stage etc for musicality and I tend to prefer a bit relaxed sound. Therefore I do prefer TT2 with M-Scaler to Dave (with or without M-Scaler) and still prefer a lot more Rockne WaveLight. As I've said before: Dave IMHO is brilliant for very critical listening especially for classical (live) music. YMMV.

 

[GuiltyRocker]

Yup.

Also, someone sent me a PM with a screenshot showing that Amir has a deal with Topping. So it all actually sort of makes sense now.

Why I'm I not surprised? .