CHORD ELECTRONICS DAVE

[jlbrach]

ok, update...I found my original manual in the box and it indeed does indicate that the right is the the output all the way to the other side from the plug and on off switch...I am perplexed as to why the manual 1.1 says otherwise...did they change something in terms of outputs in newer models?

 

[Triode User]

may I ask a favor of dave owners...this may sound silly but I am trying to figure out which of the balanced out outputs the right and which is the left....since there are no labels on the unit I am looking at the manual and I see a manual that show the right being all the way at the end on the other side of the ac plug and on off switch and I see a manual 1.1 that says the opposite...I believe the right to be the balanced XLR all the way to the end of the side away from the on off switch but want to confirm it....I appreciate it folks

The manual shows this. I suspect the manual is incorrectly labelled for the XLR but is correct for the RCA.

 

[AndrewOld]

may I ask a favor of dave owners...this may sound silly but I am trying to figure out which of the balanced out outputs the right and which is the left....since there are no labels on the unit I am looking at the manual and I see a manual that show the right being all the way at the end on the other side of the ac plug and on off switch and I see a manual 1.1 that says the opposite...I believe the right to be the balanced XLR all the way to the end of the side away from the on off switch but want to confirm it....I appreciate it folks

https://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_stereo.php

 

[Triode User]

https://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_stereo.php

Andrew, Thanks for that link. I have just done that test with my Dave and it proves to my satisfaction that the Dave manual is incorrect. Below is the correct labeling. @jlbrach

 

[Clive101]

What exactly does the mains cable provide to warrant the price?

I found this which may help you in general terms of mains cables. Note the reference to the Chord Dave and mains cables.

https://audiobacon.net/2019/08/17/27-audiophile-power-cables-reviewed/

For me the review seems to test only US mains cables without a fuse ? Correct me if I am wrong.

The Atacarma mains cable has a matching fuse which is matched for the cable so for us in the UK we also have the variable of a fuse to contend with. IMHO fuses change the sound of the cable so in the UK the review may not apply unless you use a non UK plug...or change a UK plug internals to negate the use of a fuse...!

As far as the value vs for SQ only you can answer that question there just are too many variables for us to discuss on the Dave forum

Hi Clive. What other power cables have you tried with the DAVE, which you prefer the Atacama cable to? I’ve tried a few from Shunyata, Audioquest, Chord Company etc, and am currently using a Shunyata Alpha NR v1, but I might give the Imperium a tryout.

As it happens, I’m currently discussing with Atacama possible custom options for the bamboo-shelf equipment rack I have, and about coupling generally. The cables did get a mention in conversation, but it was more in passing as my focus at that time was on equipment support and approaches to reducing internal resonances.

I have tried the Chord Sarum T, Music, Signature, MCRU no 77 with Orange fuse, Jorma (Circa £1,200) and Supra with Dave.

NOTE the fuses make a difference YMMV.

NOTE When I use a Torus Power Supply the cables have a lesser affect.

BTW I love the Atacarma Racks and they made bespoke base (special order) for my Torus power supply see enclosed.

The beauty of the company and rack is they will change and bespoke the rack to meet your needs in the present and future.

You can change the height of the legs the product is awesome. PM me if your purchasing the SE as I want to upgrade to the new SE2

 

[AndrewOld]

Andrew, Thanks for that link. I have just done that test with my Dave and it proves to my satisfaction that the Dave manual is incorrect. Below is the correct labeling. @jlbrach

My DAVE is wired the same as yours, but I thought that running the test in the link would give you absolute confirmation, and check your whole signal path. As to the mistake in the manual and the absence of any labeling on the back panel, what do you expect for £8,500?

 

[Malcyg]

I found this which may help you in general terms of mains cables. Note the reference to the Chord Dave and mains cables.

https://audiobacon.net/2019/08/17/27-audiophile-power-cables-reviewed/

For me the review seems to test only US mains cables without a fuse ? Correct me if I am wrong.

The Atacarma mains cable has a matching fuse which is matched for the cable so for us in the UK we also have the variable of a fuse to contend with. IMHO fuses change the sound of the cable so in the UK the review may not apply unless you use a non UK plug...or change a UK plug internals to negate the use of a fuse...!

As far as the value vs for SQ only you can answer that question there just are too many variables for us to discuss on the Dave forum



I have tried the Chord Sarum T, Music, Signature, MCRU no 77 with Orange fuse, Jorma (Circa £1,200) and Supra with Dave.

NOTE the fuses make a difference YMMV.

NOTE When I use a Torus Power Supply the cables have a lesser affect.

BTW I love the Atacarma Racks and they made bespoke base (special order) for my Torus power supply see enclosed.

The beauty of the company and rack is they will change and bespoke the rack to meet your needs in the present and future.

You can change the height of the legs the product is awesome. PM me if your purchasing the SE as I want to upgrade to the new SE2

I agree your comments on Atacama racks Clive. Also, the fact that they are modular means that you can build the rack as your system evolves as well as making rack management easier than with a fixed rack. I have the older version with the chunky wooden legs. You cannot get additional shelves for it anymore which I have taken as being good for self discipline.

 

[JTbbb]

deleted, was already answered!.

 

[jlbrach]

Andrew, Thanks for that link. I have just done that test with my Dave and it proves to my satisfaction that the Dave manual is incorrect. Below is the correct labeling. @jlbrach

I do appreciate it, I hadnt used the balanced out output on my dave for some time and when I went online to look at the manual to check which is R and L due to the fact that there is no labeling on the unit I came across the bogus information on the new updated manual....the thing that is strange is my printed manual is correct as are several other older online manuals...why they put up an incorrect version is beyond me and it took me quite a while to figure it out....thankfully it has been worked out

 

[AndrewOld]

Has anyone got a picture of a DAVE where the i/o sockets are marked? Are the controls on top marked too?

 

[mbj666]

I found this which may help you in general terms of mains cables. Note the reference to the Chord Dave and mains cables.

https://audiobacon.net/2019/08/17/27-audiophile-power-cables-reviewed/

For me the review seems to test only US mains cables without a fuse ? Correct me if I am wrong.

The Atacarma mains cable has a matching fuse which is matched for the cable so for us in the UK we also have the variable of a fuse to contend with. IMHO fuses change the sound of the cable so in the UK the review may not apply unless you use a non UK plug...or change a UK plug internals to negate the use of a fuse...!

As far as the value vs for SQ only you can answer that question there just are too many variables for us to discuss on the Dave forum



I have tried the Chord Sarum T, Music, Signature, MCRU no 77 with Orange fuse, Jorma (Circa £1,200) and Supra with Dave.

NOTE the fuses make a difference YMMV.

NOTE When I use a Torus Power Supply the cables have a lesser affect.

BTW I love the Atacarma Racks and they made bespoke base (special order) for my Torus power supply see enclosed.

The beauty of the company and rack is they will change and bespoke the rack to meet your needs in the present and future.

You can change the height of the legs the product is awesome. PM me if your purchasing the SE as I want to upgrade to the new SE2

How did you find the mcru 77 vs the sarum and the atacama one (just to add to my demo/want list)

 

[Hooster]

My DAVE is wired the same as yours, but I thought that running the test in the link would give you absolute confirmation, and check your whole signal path. As to the mistake in the manual and the absence of any labeling on the back panel, what do you expect for £8,500?

That is too funny. Makes you wonder what else they got wrong if they can't manage to do something so simple... Would it have broken their budget to actually label the outputs on the unit?

 

[Mediahound]

Chord is really fairly consistent with incorrect user manuals. Some versions of the M Scaler manual had the BNC jacks labeled wrong as well.

 

[DaveRedRef-III]

I found this which may help you in general terms of mains cables. Note the reference to the Chord Dave and mains cables.

https://audiobacon.net/2019/08/17/27-audiophile-power-cables-reviewed/

For me the review seems to test only US mains cables without a fuse ? Correct me if I am wrong.

The Atacarma mains cable has a matching fuse which is matched for the cable so for us in the UK we also have the variable of a fuse to contend with. IMHO fuses change the sound of the cable so in the UK the review may not apply unless you use a non UK plug...or change a UK plug internals to negate the use of a fuse...!

As far as the value vs for SQ only you can answer that question there just are too many variables for us to discuss on the Dave forum



I have tried the Chord Sarum T, Music, Signature, MCRU no 77 with Orange fuse, Jorma (Circa £1,200) and Supra with Dave.

NOTE the fuses make a difference YMMV.

NOTE When I use a Torus Power Supply the cables have a lesser affect.

BTW I love the Atacarma Racks and they made bespoke base (special order) for my Torus power supply see enclosed.

The beauty of the company and rack is they will change and bespoke the rack to meet your needs in the present and future.

You can change the height of the legs the product is awesome. PM me if your purchasing the SE as I want to upgrade to the new SE2

I also use an Atacarma Rack Clive. Very happy with it.

 

[DaveRedRef-III]

My experience with SR Orange fuses is the biggest jump in dynamic improvement this side of changing your speakers. If someone values dynamics and 'even-frequency balance' (for truer instrument timbre) high on their list of important system virtues then I doubt they will find more bang for their buck in achieving that goal.

I also think the benefits of Grounding Blocks are underestimated by many audiophiles. Most of our houses and systems have bad electrics I would bet. Clean electrics are a revelation.

Finally Power chord 'bang for buck' best I have heard is probably Kimber Palladian PK10 at around £1700. I think you would have to pay an awful lot more to beat it.