Dec 21, 2015 at 12:02 PM Post #1,111 of 27,001
Sorry for off-topic but if you guys like old tube 50's-60's recordings of great songs, I just love this Dean Martin compilation. Its guaranteed to put me in a good mood.
 
Martin chose to record some great songs and fortunately his recordings were much better than Sinatra. This 'Capital' 2CD remastering is not cheap (maybe cheaper elsewhere?) but it has a very analogue sound to it imo.
 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dino-Essential-Dean-Martin/dp/B004XIDV0G/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1450716667&sr=1-2&keywords=dino%3A+the+essential+dean+martin
 
Dec 21, 2015 at 12:22 PM Post #1,112 of 27,001
Does the Dave work with camera connection kit directly into a iPhone or iPad? There was a rumor today that apple was coming out with a high res music format. I know this rumor has been going on for a long time. Full disclosure I am an apple fan but to the extent that they could create a new standard in streaming that would be approved by the audiophile community would be amazing. The only issue is when will the high end dacs/amps embrace Apple? Some now can be used with a camera adapter cable which is not ideal. Is it an issue with not wanting to pay Apple for the ability to directly do it or is it a musicality issue? I'm tempted with the Dave but at the same time don't want to spend that kind of money if everyting is going to change in a few months. Any thoughts?
 
Dec 21, 2015 at 12:45 PM Post #1,113 of 27,001
Lets hope it is MQA that would make it a done deal and major remastering take-up of key back catalogues. Beatles, Dylan, Stones etc
 
Dec 21, 2015 at 12:58 PM Post #1,114 of 27,001
 Is it an issue with not wanting to pay Apple for the ability to directly do it or is it a musicality issue? I'm tempted with the Dave but at the same time don't want to spend that kind of money if everyting is going to change in a few months. Any thoughts?

 
This issue was discussed in the Mojo thread, recently:
 
 
www.head-fi.org/t/784602/chord-mojo-the-official-thread-read-the-third-post-for-updated-info/1710#post_12016629
 
 
AFAIAA, Apple have zero significant track record in advancing the state of digital audio formats. AFAIAA, they also have zero significant track record in putting sound quality first&foremost in the design of ANY of their recent hardware products. And, since Jobs' passing, I haven't witnessed any substantial industry-leading innovation in any of their products (gimmicky wrist watches don't count).
 
They are all about grabbing as much market share as possible, mostly using a "look at the shiney-shiney!" approach, coupled with a closed ecosystem, and keeping customers locked into product co-dependency, draconian control, and forced obsolescence.
 
I do believe Apple have the potential to produce a very decent DAP (and, conceivably, even venturing into a desktop headphone DAC-Amp &/or a hi-fi seperates streamer device), but I don't believe the bean-counters on the board of directors will be motivated to best serve the needs of audiophiles, overall, judging by their self-serving track record, over the past couple of decades. It is worth pondering why Apple would be motivated to create a higher-res codec than the already-unnecessary and redundant ALAC, at all. One may be reasonably certain that whatever new codec they might bring to market will probably be tightly-integrated with iTunes, as part of a reluctant, and sorely-overdue push to bring iTunes up to date with the rest of the music industry, and thus likely DRM'd, so as to serve Apple's own interests.
 
 
I am curious why would you choose products based on wishing to be compatible with Apple's selfish shenanigans?
 
Far better to free yourself from that dog-&-pony nonsense, and instead buy open-standard products from companies that don't selfishly try to hamstring you at every opportunity (incompatibility, forced-obsolescence, etc.)
 
And I say all this as someone who has owned (still owns) an obsolete Powerbook, and a broken iPod Classic (gave my other one away to someone, for spares), so I have been an Apple customer, myself.
 
If I had the spare cash, I'd buy a DAVE DAC in a heartbeat, knowing there are hundreds of different products, from many wonderful designers, engineers, and companies, I could successfully feed it a digital signal with.
 
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Dec 21, 2015 at 8:54 PM Post #1,116 of 27,001
Dave is confirm working with Ipod, ipad, iphone with camera connection kit. See my way back impression, even with this setup, it sound much better than with Hugo.
 
Currently I am burning in the Dave with ipad and ipod.
 
 
 
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Does the Dave work with camera connection kit directly into a iPhone or iPad? There was a rumor today that apple was coming out with a high res music format. I know this rumor has been going on for a long time. Full disclosure I am an apple fan but to the extent that they could create a new standard in streaming that would be approved by the audiophile community would be amazing. The only issue is when will the high end dacs/amps embrace Apple? Some now can be used with a camera adapter cable which is not ideal. Is it an issue with not wanting to pay Apple for the ability to directly do it or is it a musicality issue? I'm tempted with the Dave but at the same time don't want to spend that kind of money if everyting is going to change in a few months. Any thoughts?

 
Dec 21, 2015 at 10:22 PM Post #1,117 of 27,001
My best tip if someone searching for a extra good source but on a tighter $10k budget excl. DAC, then i can highly recomend the
( NAD ) BlueSound Node II with a W4s Remedy femto Re-Clocker , this in combination with my Hugo its a match made in heaven!

Without the W4a Remedy, the sound are good, but the Hugo sound a little harsh and all music even if its high def with great dynamic range, the combination are not the best, but with the Remedy something magical happens!

The sound are much smother have a better soundstage, greater dept and sounding much blacker than the stock config Blue + Hugo does, even with a Regen connected, it does not come near the W4s sound. It gets more fluid with a glowing sound like on a neon light sign in the night! ;)



DAR is as overwelmed as me over this small fantastic pruduct.! I can say that this combination battery powered w4s + Hugo is as close to my MSB Analog SQ wise, and are even better in some cases. The MSB does not have the exact same dept as the HUGO, but the MSB are much faster and got bigger and better soundstage.

So it should be very intresting to connect the W4s to my Chord DAVE and see if it can do an even bigger step forward when it arrives.





https://wyred4sound.com/products/digital-converters/remedy-reclocker
 
Dec 22, 2015 at 1:10 AM Post #1,118 of 27,001
Can I ask someone with the Dave to measure its size and estimate the weight. I'm having a friend bring it to Asia for me since of the delays. Was thinking of getting a pelican case for it.
 
Dec 22, 2015 at 4:12 AM Post #1,119 of 27,001
Info below from the Chord manual p13.    Corroborative link to manual - http://www.chordelectronics.co.uk/files/Dave%20Manual.pdf
 
DIMENSIONS IN MM: 338 x 60 x 145mm (Width x Height x Depth)
 
WEIGHT: 7Kg
 
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Can I ask someone with the Dave to measure its size and estimate the weight. I'm having a friend bring it to Asia for me since of the delays. Was thinking of getting a pelican case for it.

 
Dec 22, 2015 at 6:00 AM Post #1,120 of 27,001
I like to test my system changes by digging out one or two CD's I haven't listened to for the best part of a decade. Today I tried Divine Madness (Virgin 1992). What a pleasant surprise. I never realised how well they recorded their bass guitar and also how well they preserved bass dynamics. There is hardly any compression on things like Baggy Trousers and Embarrassment for this pressing. Talk about impact. Dave belts it out. What a great way to start the day. Especially a Grey Day! haha
 
Dec 22, 2015 at 10:39 AM Post #1,122 of 27,001
Yes, is heavy and I almost drop it when I first hold it for photo taking (adv for distributor :p)
 
As mention by Rob the whole casing is heatsink for the FPGA. And it's good thing for vibration damper point of view.
 
Dec 22, 2015 at 10:47 AM Post #1,123 of 27,001
  Yes, is heavy and I almost drop it when I first hold it for photo taking (adv for distributor :p)
 
As mention by Rob the whole casing is heatsink for the FPGA. And it's good thing for vibration damper point of view.

 
 
You could make it even heavier, if you like! LOL
 
www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/new-methods-for-quantifying-sonic-performance-part-two/
 
Dec 22, 2015 at 11:36 AM Post #1,124 of 27,001
I wont, Dave is heavy enough. But for HP listening, vibration won't be huge issue unless you live in constant earth quake zone or on high floor apartment.
 
What I will do is putting Ansuz footer under Dave :)
 
 
 
 
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You could make it even heavier, if you like! LOL
 
www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/new-methods-for-quantifying-sonic-performance-part-two/


 
Dec 22, 2015 at 2:56 PM Post #1,125 of 27,001
I have no problem with apple, just sayin. I find the 320 lossless just fine. CCK is a hassel for portability. I cant  go back to the dog and pony show of open systems. But thats just me. So if apple comes out with a higher quality format my only issue is it would be great to have all previous content up converted.
 

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