Amberlamps
Formerly known as Phuca
Not as of yet, but I'm positive that I will buy more high end headphones in the future, as I'm getting sick of replacing my hd800s cable every six months.
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Not as of yet, but I'm positive that I will buy more high end headphones in the future, as I'm getting sick of replacing my hd800s cable every six months.
Amberlamps
Formerly known as Phuca
It is possible, after all it is mentioned in the mscalers manual, "for future products", but I wouldn't hold my breath for it. I suspect it's like davina, a mythical creature that is widely spoken about, but yet nobody has seen one, except rob and purple aki.
Does anyone know if Dave's jitter immunity also extends to the m-scaler?
Sounds like a case of upgraditis
Weren't you saying you're selling everything and buying gold at one point? 
lovethatsound
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Just get the focal utopia,it's brilliant with the Dave. I've got the hd800 as well,but to be honest I never use them now.
The Utopia is something special indeed. Reminded me of my Z1R, but not as thick and a bit faster, with a slightly smaller soundstage. I would definitely get a pair if i could use open backs.
The HE1000se was faster and the imaging was in another class but the tonality was pretty dry, i couldn't live with them.
Amberlamps
Formerly known as Phuca
Sounds like a case of upgraditis
I can't remember ?
But with the way the world is going, paper money will soon be useless, but bling will always be a form of currency.
number1sixerfan
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I have both the Susvaras and the TC's and it's definitely not a myth. However, I haven't used them directly out of the Dave since the first week of owning it. I'll try to revisit tonight and share some thoughts.
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susvara cannot be used out of the dave, abyss tc can and some enjoy but they are dramatically better with an amp added
Progisus
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Always something... mscaler and megabuck cables, dave and amp for totl phones. I‘m just lucky the TT and TT2 seem to be well thought out. Oops... the 3.5mm jack sucks.
Unless you've heard and specifically love those headphones i'm not sure why they're a priority for you. There's always a new flavor of the month. A lot of new reviews put the Final Audio D8k Pro at least at the same level and those are easy to drive for example. Doesn't matter if they don't do it for u though. I'm thinking of giving them a try when i do go with open backs.
If you're really bent on them you can just get a dedicated amp and be done with it.
If you're really bent on them you can just get a dedicated amp and be done with it.
I'm also here to vouch for comments by the others, Susvara requires much more power than what the Dave can outputs. If you are planning to use the Susvara out directly from Dave, honest advice..forget it!
This is interesting for a future Dave :
https://www.wsj.com/articles/amd-agrees-to-buy-rival-chip-maker-xilinx-for-35-billion-11603794663
https://www.wsj.com/articles/amd-agrees-to-buy-rival-chip-maker-xilinx-for-35-billion-11603794663
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I really hope that the new amps Rob is apparently working on currently will be the solution to Dave's real Achilles Heel especially when used with the Mscaler and several of the difficult to drive highend headphones mentioned earlier in this thread.
And if I understand things correctly there won't even be any need for a Dave if one already owns an Mscaler?
Dave/HMS directly clipping with large scale orchestral non compressed classical music with both Susvara and Utopia and even HEKV2 in my experience is NOT nice to hear and apart from the very high price asked imho one of the main reasons I have personally, not bought a Dave.
I chose to compromise a bit on ultimate transparency in comparison to DAVE /HMS but I am very happy with the Mscaler, the advantage of it is so immmediately obvious to me over no Mscaler and with all Chord dacs I auditioned it with that I just can't think of using any Chord dac including DAVE, without it.
For me the Mscaler is absolutely THE most important link in the currently available Chord digital products chain.
Dave was and in most respects still is an amazing product but it also needs Mscaling to really shine imho.
With the Mscaler Dave can deliver really SOTA territory, digital reproduction but not without it imho.
But for those only listening via headphones who knows? Maybe the recently announced T+A HA200 headphone amp dac combo which not only just as Dave/HMS upscales ALL pcm formats to 768khz!!!! but also plays NATIVE DSD up to DSD 1024 with windows.
Could it be the challenge to Dave alone many have been waiting for from the competition?
I prefer to let my ears be the ultimate judge of SQ but it seems HIFI News where mightily impressed with the T+A HA200 in combination both with T+A's own headphone and also said that they had never heard the Oppo PM1 sound better than via the HA200!
The HA200 retails from around 6k€,which is about half price of Dave and can allegedly comfortably drive ANY headphone on the market except electrostatics and possibly the SRH1A ?
For basically the same price as a Dave one could buy both a HA200 AND T+A's planar headphone which apparently compares quite favourably with the Utopia according to some listeners.
PS. I hope I haven't upset too many of you. I just felt like stirring the pot here a bit again it's been a while.
Personally I am frankly still very happy with my humble Qutest/HMS combo with Wave Storm BNCs and via my big electrostatic speakers I had an almost eargasmic, very sensual listening experience enjoying Anoushka Shankar's amazing album RISE as 16/44.1 rbcd this morning.
No other digital product I've heard so far, makes well recorded 16/44.1 as enjoyable as the Mscaler!
I am all with Rob as far as the Mscaler is concerned. Once heard in a good system and with well recorded acoustic music, there's simply no going back to anything less than 1M taps mscaling for me.
Cheers CC
And if I understand things correctly there won't even be any need for a Dave if one already owns an Mscaler?
Dave/HMS directly clipping with large scale orchestral non compressed classical music with both Susvara and Utopia and even HEKV2 in my experience is NOT nice to hear and apart from the very high price asked imho one of the main reasons I have personally, not bought a Dave.
I chose to compromise a bit on ultimate transparency in comparison to DAVE /HMS but I am very happy with the Mscaler, the advantage of it is so immmediately obvious to me over no Mscaler and with all Chord dacs I auditioned it with that I just can't think of using any Chord dac including DAVE, without it.
For me the Mscaler is absolutely THE most important link in the currently available Chord digital products chain.
Dave was and in most respects still is an amazing product but it also needs Mscaling to really shine imho.
With the Mscaler Dave can deliver really SOTA territory, digital reproduction but not without it imho.
But for those only listening via headphones who knows? Maybe the recently announced T+A HA200 headphone amp dac combo which not only just as Dave/HMS upscales ALL pcm formats to 768khz!!!! but also plays NATIVE DSD up to DSD 1024 with windows.
Could it be the challenge to Dave alone many have been waiting for from the competition?
I prefer to let my ears be the ultimate judge of SQ but it seems HIFI News where mightily impressed with the T+A HA200 in combination both with T+A's own headphone and also said that they had never heard the Oppo PM1 sound better than via the HA200!
The HA200 retails from around 6k€,which is about half price of Dave and can allegedly comfortably drive ANY headphone on the market except electrostatics and possibly the SRH1A ?
For basically the same price as a Dave one could buy both a HA200 AND T+A's planar headphone which apparently compares quite favourably with the Utopia according to some listeners.
PS. I hope I haven't upset too many of you. I just felt like stirring the pot here a bit again it's been a while.
Personally I am frankly still very happy with my humble Qutest/HMS combo with Wave Storm BNCs and via my big electrostatic speakers I had an almost eargasmic, very sensual listening experience enjoying Anoushka Shankar's amazing album RISE as 16/44.1 rbcd this morning.
No other digital product I've heard so far, makes well recorded 16/44.1 as enjoyable as the Mscaler!
I am all with Rob as far as the Mscaler is concerned. Once heard in a good system and with well recorded acoustic music, there's simply no going back to anything less than 1M taps mscaling for me.
Cheers CC
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