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Headphoneus Supremus
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True, but I find it more engaging and dynamic when I turn it up slightly more to about 85-90db, but after a few songs at that volume my ears get a little wonky, so for the sake of my hearing, I listen to them at less than optimal volume. Figured if I couldn't listen to the Enleum+Sus at it's full potential because of tinnitus, chances are upgrading to those speaker amps wouldn't help me either.Don’t confuse power with volume. They are not the same.
True, but I find it more engaging and dynamic when I turn it up slightly more to about 85-90db, but after a few songs at that volume my ears get a little wonky, so for the sake of my hearing, I listen to them at less than optimal volume. Figured if I couldn't listen to the Enleum+Sus at it's full potential because of tinnitus, chances are upgrading to those speaker amps wouldn't help me either.
Could you please expand on this topic because I was under the impression that the Silver Fox has a warm, full-bodied sound - based on reading comments in this thread? Do you think that the V281 amp drives a Susvara headphone better than the Silver Fox amp in terms of producing a more full-bodied/warmer sound? Then, a Silver Fox amp would probably not suit me because I find my Susvara headphone lacks enough tonal weight in the lower midrange and midbass when driven by my V281 headphone amplifier. I am hoping to find a headphone amp that will allow my Susvara headphone to have the same warm full-bodied tonal qualities as my Meze Empy Elite headphones - while still retaining its amazing transient attack and micro-resolution abilities.@JeffMann
I just find the V281 more to my tastes. I’ve had this Ml many times over the last eight years. I have tried different amps and always find my way back to V281. I just like the musical, euphonic, killer bass, and warm sound.
Could the sheer physical thinness of Susvara drivers / sheets, excellent for transients, be a de facto deterrent to achieving warm full bodied sound?Could you please expand on this topic because I was under the impression that the Silver Fox has a warm, full-bodied sound - based on reading comments in this thread? Do you think that the V281 amp drives a Susvara headphone better than the Silver Fox amp in terms of producing a more full-bodied/warmer sound? Then, a Silver Fox amp would probably not suit me because I find my Susvara headphone lacks enough tonal weight in the lower midrange and midbass when driven by my V281 headphone amplifier. I am hoping to find a headphone amp that will allow my Susvara headphone to have the same warm full-bodied tonal qualities as my Meze Empy Elite headphones - while still retaining its amazing transient attack and micro-resolution abilities.
Jeff.
Could you please expand on this topic because I was under the impression that the Silver Fox has a warm, full-bodied sound - based on reading comments in this thread? Do you think that the V281 amp drives a Susvara headphone better than the Silver Fox amp in terms of producing a more full-bodied/warmer sound? Then, a Silver Fox amp would probably not suit me because I find my Susvara headphone lacks enough tonal weight in the lower midrange and midbass when driven by my V281 headphone amplifier. I am hoping to find a headphone amp that will allow my Susvara headphone to have the same warm full-bodied tonal qualities as my Meze Empy Elite headphones - while still retaining its amazing transient attack and micro-resolution abilities.
Jeff.
Could the sheer physical thinness of Susvara drivers / sheets, excellent for transients, be a de facto deterrent to achieving warm full bodied sound?
I have owned many Vioelectric amps (V200, V281, V280 and Nimbus US4+) and I like the V281 the best because of its "warmth".I I can’t really speak to the Susvara as I don’t like the headphone and so it doesn’t matter if I hooked it up to a Porsche. It’s too delicate sounding and lacking bass for my taste. I borrowed it for a couple of weeks to see if I could talk myself into liking it.
With regards to the Silver Fox and V281, it’s a matter of degrees. They both are considered warm amps, but the V281 is warmer and thicker sounding. Some people may like that and some people don’t. The snobs will say the V281 is only Mid-Fi.
I don’t think you ever find a solid state amp that’s going get the Susvara to sound full-bodied like the Empyrean Elite, especially if you don’t think the V281 does. Maybe if you found a good tube amp that puts out a lot of power, but I don’t know for sure as I’m not a tube amp guy.
What is your opinion of the V281 with your Susvara?
I have owned many Vioelectric amps (V200, V281, V280 and Nimbus US4+) and I like the V281 the best because of its "warmth".
However, I cannot get my Susvara (which I have owned for 6 years) to have enough warmth (enough tonal density in the lower midrange and midbass region) with any amp that I have auditioned. I only fully realised that it seriously lacked "warmth" when I purchased the Meze Empy Elite headphone, which I like much better when it comes to the particular sound quality feature of musical tone/timbre.
Jeff.
You are probably correct.If you didn’t write this, and you were just reading it, do you know what you would think? It’s the Susvara.
If the V281 is not giving you those exact qualities that you’re looking for, you’re not gonna find it.
I think Auris Nirvana drive Susvara pretty wellWhat do you not like about the Silver Fox amp that made you go back to the V281 amp?
I am presently using a Cayin HA300Mk2 amp (equipped with Mullard CV6 driver tubes and WE300B tubes) with my Meze Empy Elite headphones and I love that combination. However, I also own a Susvara headphone which sounds too thin (lacking enough tonal density - especially in the lower midrange and midbass) with any amp that I have ever owned (including the Cayin tube amp and my V281 amp). I was wondering whether the Silver Fox could make it sound more "meaty".
Jeff.
These questions are quite narrowly targeted at a specific area of the Susvara's performance with the Fox, so it will require a correspondingly controlled session of auditioning in order to be addressed properly, which I cannot do because my Susvara is not with me at the moment, I should be able to address this question more adequately when the Sus is back in the house in about a week or two from now.You are probably correct.
However, I would be interested in knowing whether any Susvara owner has obtained a significant increase in its tonal density in the lower midrange/midbass region as a result of using a Silver Fox amp.
Jeff.
Hi, noticed you mentioned the headtrip. May i ask which model headtrip , that you feel the silver fox is superior to? The original, headtrip 2, or headtrip lvl2? and in what ways is it superior. Thank youThe Meze Elite are high performance headphones, and the Silver Fox has no pull-down gain to ensure the best performance. The Holo Bliss is an auto gain and resistive load amp that (with a high degree of certainty) forms the best synergy with high performance headphones. I'm sure the Yifang community member will have a successful amp change deal and share his experience with us. I wish him good luck.
However, I find the Silver Fox to be a great amp for difficult-to-drive headphones.
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In my opinion, it is more correct to compare Silver Fox with Flux Lab Volot and HeadTrip when used with complex headphones. In such a fight, the Silver Fox can really show itself to advantage.
I tried ATLdesigns dc blocker and aslo assembled a dc blocker using sjostrom audio dc3 circuit, both are discrete design dc blocker,its very good for trafo hum, especially big transformer and doesn't squash dynamics like many of the AC noise suppression products do.Just to update that the DC Blocker from iFi definitely stops the transformer hum but doesn't really do much otherwise. The hum in my case mostly disappears after short while anyway so I don't think I'll be picking up a DC Blocker (they aren't cheap for what it is), but if you have constant hum and noise problems, definitely look into it.