[Mr Trev]

Cant we use fiio l27-tc (wmport to usbc)
For a17 to these dongles (S2, w2, ru6)?

The Sonys won't be able to supply power to the dongle. We'd need something battery powered - like the Fiio Q3

 

[cristian4]

Hi all!)
Maybe anyone know will RU6 support mqa?

 

[gto88]

Guess no MQA support, it didn’t say in the 1st post.

 

[cristian4]

Guess no MQA support, it didn’t say in the 1st post.

yes, but I hope maybe they don't provide all information. I'm asking because other Cayin products support mqa(n6,n8, n3pro)

 

[utdeep]

Well this is disappointing to read. I have a W2, and am awaiting (impatiently, LOL) for my new 16" 2021 Macbook Pro to ship. It never occurred to me it wouldn't work with the new Apple Silicon machines. Now I'll be watching this thread for compatibility reports even more.

I have a MacBook Pro M1 and had no problems with the W2 (except I needed a Windows machine for updates). Not sure what happened to the other person

 

[felix3650]

yes, but I hope maybe they don't provide all information. I'm asking because other Cayin products support mqa(n6,n8, n3pro)

Those are daps. This is a dongle with only a "simple" processing chip neccessary for the R2R network. Fortunately the focus has been the sound quality rather than the "optional" features

 

[cristian4]

Those are daps. This is a dongle with only a "simple" processing chip neccessary for the R2R network. Fortunately the focus has been the sound quality rather than the "optional" features

you're totally right ) But we have an example of Lotoo paw s1/s2(with this feature) ..So I hoped that maybe Cayin also provide this "optional" feature)

 

[LudoLVG]

I am not sure that r2r dac could support mqa

 

[Zachik]

Would I start a riot if I say "MQA is a gimmick"?
TBH, gimmick is the wrong word, but IMHO nobody should base their decision on product A or B based on that "feature"...
Again, just my own personal opinion.

 

[blotmouse]

I am not sure that r2r dac could support mqa

Correct, It can't. Or at least no one has made it possible yet.

No current r-2r player supports MQA (afaik) as its licensed tech with a cost associated, easily implemented in off the shelf chips like AKM and ESS (sometimes even embedded), but not so in custom creations like this discrete ladder network.

If you are planning on using MQA as a format for your music, you will only be able to listen to r-2r via SW rendered 1st unfolds (up to 96kHz) Mostly that is just fine, and if you follow any info on the MQA conspiracy and artifacting, it's even the preferred way to listen with less measured file alteration.

 

[cristian4]

Would I start a riot if I say "MQA is a gimmick"?
TBH, gimmick is the wrong word, but IMHO nobody should base their decision on product A or B based on that "feature"...
Again, just my own personal opinion.

I think it's quite arguable question )

Correct, It can't. Or at least no one has made it possible yet.

No current r-2r player supports MQA (afaik) as its licensed tech with a cost associated, easily implemented in off the shelf chips like AKM and ESS (sometimes even embedded), but not so in custom creations like this discrete ladder network.

If you are planning on using MQA as a format for your music, you will only be able to listen to r-2r via SW rendered 1st unfolds (up to 96kHz) Mostly that is just fine, and if you follow any info on the MQA conspiracy and artifacting, it's even the preferred way to listen with less measured file alteration.

Thanks for the asnwer) It's very helpful)

 

[Zachik]

I think it's quite arguable question

I agree. That is the reason that first - I asked if I would start a riot by asking that... And second - I emphasized that was my personal opinion.
I am aware there are 2 camps. Actually 3 camps:
* MQA believers
* MQA haters
* People that think it is just a different "flavor" but not necessarily better or worse

I guess I am personally on the 3 camp, thinking it sounds a little different but not necessarily better or worse. Just a little different.

 

[Billyak]

I agree. That is the reason that first - I asked if I would start a riot by asking that... And second - I emphasized that was my personal opinion.
I am aware there are 2 camps. Actually 3 camps:
* MQA believers
* MQA haters
* People that think it is just a different "flavor" but not necessarily better or worse

I guess I am personally on the 3 camp, thinking it sounds a little different but not necessarily better or worse. Just a little different.

The thing I don't like about MQA (apart from the recent debunking) is that I find it practically impossible to tell the difference between 320 MP3, CD Quality and Hi Res. They sound pretty much identical to me but when I listen to MQA, it sounds different. Like others have said it doesn't necessarily sound worse but I find it hard to believe that MP3 CD and Hi Res are not true to the recording but MQA is.

 

[InvisibleInk]

The thing I don't like about MQA (apart from the recent debunking) is that I find it practically impossible to tell the difference between 320 MP3, CD Quality and Hi Res. They sound pretty much identical to me but when I listen to MQA, it sounds different. Like others have said it doesn't necessarily sound worse but I find it hard to believe that MP3 CD and Hi Res are not true to the recording but MQA is.

MQA is DRM masquerading as a value-added feature.

 

[blotmouse]

MQA is DRM masquerading as a value-added feature.

Kinda, yeah