[ECKHUAAA]

Today listening session.

Started at 85% battery and played music till 20% battery.

Despite being a great and enjoy-full listen, but 4:51 hours is clearly not enough playtime for a weekend day.

I know that you can reach 7-8h playtime when charge to 100% and play till battery is dead, but this behavior is not sustainable for battery health and would degrade the battery in no time.

I wish N30 had at least three more hours of playtime left.

Everything in life demands some compromise.
More battery power more weight, more complaint about size etc not to mention cost and heat dissipation needs with bigger surface need for the heatsink.
To handle huge dynamic swings in the music you need an agile responsive power supply or else distortion will step in as power supply strains to deliver...so if all it takes is a recharge every so often then do so with a fast charger. True audiophiles will sacrifice a few inconveniences for the ultimate audio Sound reproduction, rather than conveniences. Remember the auto loading turntables of old, audiophiles soon went for the manual loaders because they had much less distortion bringing them closer to audio Nirvana
N30LE AP or Standard has done that better than anything else currently affordable in mobile/transportable so kudos to @Cayin @Andykong Thanks

 

[bossfan48009]

Do you have a recommendation for a fast charger that you like? Thanks in advance.

 

[RonaldS86]

Do you have a recommendation for a fast charger that you like? Thanks in advance.

I'm using this one : https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charge...5268&keywords=anker+747&qid=1700351666&sr=8-3
Using it with anker cable too

 

[Auricon]

Do you have a recommendation for a fast charger that you like? Thanks in advance.

I'm using this one : https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charge...5268&keywords=anker+747&qid=1700351666&sr=8-3
Using it with anker cable too

Me too! Anker charger 747 + Anker 240W, 3/6/10ft bio-braided fast charge cable or Anker 643 100w smooth silicone.

 

[ECKHUAAA]

Do you have a recommendation for a fast charger that you like? Thanks in advance.

I got this from Amazon

 

[zoidbb]

Anyone done a direct comparison of the AP vs non-AP units now that they’re both available standalone?

 

[bigbeans]

Anyone done a direct comparison of the AP vs non-AP units now that they’re both available standalone?

https://twister6.com/2023/10/30/canjam-socal-2023-impressions-from-musicteck-tables/2/

“Based on a few blind tests, I can hear AP version to have a slightly wider soundstage with a bit more holographic imaging, noticeable with both IEMs and headphones. The difference I hear is mostly in mids where original has a bit denser and more organic fuller body tonality while AP is a little more revealing, more transparent, with a bit more air between the sound layers.”

 

[bigbeans]

Not even 24 hrs in from initial listen...this is the real deal. It's injected a lot of life into mid tier IEMs especially. I love this DAP. Will publish some brief impressions tmr. For now, here is a pic.

 

[Dax7]

Not even 24 hrs in from initial listen...this is the real deal. It's injected a lot of life into mid tier IEMs especially. I love this DAP. Will publish some brief impressions tmr. For now, here is a pic.

For me and my use N30 is best dap hands down. Absolutely loving it.

 

[Kobe4ever]

My unit should arrive by Wednesday.
One question: how many minutes does it take to have the tubes heated up and obtain the ideal sound?

 

[kleimart]

If anybody is interested in a AP version let me know.

 

[ECKHUAAA]

My unit should arrive by Wednesday.
One question: how many minutes does it take to have the tubes heated up and obtain the ideal sound?

About 30_40mins but takes at least 50hours to break-in to its real performance state with slight incremental improvements after that

 

[Kobe4ever]

About 30_40mins but takes at least 50hours to break-in to its real performance state with slight incremental improvements after that

Thanks

 

[Dax7]

About 30_40mins but takes at least 50hours to break-in to its real performance state with slight incremental improvements after that

Is it official info that tubes take 30-40 min to heat up? I never had other device with nano tubes so I’m just curious. I have bunch of guitar tube amps and they take few min tops to warm up.

 

[mgsu]

Do you play with Class A? Maybe get extra 30% the time on battery if choosing class A/B, solid state mode. Also I turn off WIFI and Bluetooth since I don’t really need them most of the time.

I would do Class AB, but Hyper + Classic Tube is to addictive

Everything in life demands some compromise.
More battery power more weight, more complaint about size etc not to mention cost and heat dissipation needs with bigger surface need for the heatsink.
To handle huge dynamic swings in the music you need an agile responsive power supply or else distortion will step in as power supply strains to deliver...so if all it takes is a recharge every so often then do so with a fast charger. True audiophiles will sacrifice a few inconveniences for the ultimate audio Sound reproduction, rather than conveniences. Remember the auto loading turntables of old, audiophiles soon went for the manual loaders because they had much less distortion bringing them closer to audio Nirvana
N30LE AP or Standard has done that better than anything else currently affordable in mobile/transportable so kudos to @Cayin @Andykong Thanks

It is a balancing act for Cayin to be the jack of all trades. It is understandable that it is not possible to satisfy everyone.

I hope that Cayin would bring a desktop version of N30 or some kind of hybrid version with a internal battery and an external LPSU. So when you plug the N30 to the external LPSU it circumvents the internal battery and the N30 runs of the LPSU.