Cayin i5 Lossless Android DAP with AKM4490 DAC supporting 32/384 PCM + 64/128 DSD

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  1. nmatheis Contributor
    Looks like Cayin is coming out with a touchscreen DAP called the i5. All I've seen so far is this pic from unknownguardian.

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    I'll update as I find out more. Perhaps Andykong will take pity on us and join the conversation :wink:


    Thought I should add some additional info to the first post...

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  2. HK_sends
    Look forward to hearing more about it! [​IMG]
    Cheers![​IMG]
    -HK sends
     
  3. nmatheis Contributor
    A bit of back n forth from the N5 thread...



     
  4. stuart1927
    I was looking at this DAP at Canjam at the weekend. It looks fantastic.....I loved the dual voltmeters you can activate.....very cool! I really like Cayin's stuff. I have the N6 and although it looks like a pig's ear [​IMG]...it's one of the best sounding DAP's on the market IMHO. 
     
    Stuart
     
  5. nmatheis Contributor
    I love my N5 and can't wait to hear the i5!

    Hopefully there'll be more news soon...
     
  6. Andykong
    Should have come earlier, I didn't receive the email alert when @nmatheis added me to the post when I am traveling, I think I better change my email link to gmail so that I can get alert even I am on the road.

    The problem is, can't talk much on specification as they are subject to change, I can't talk about the price as I didn't have the final BOM, the price I quoted previously was one of the project objective at early stage but we know this is not necessarily the case after 12 months of tough development work. :D

    I can share something about the design concept of i5 thought. At the early stage of development, we want the i5 to be a music-orientated player, allow the user to enjoy music from as many music source as possible, anywhere and anytime. So accessibility was a big key word and operation that is identifiable by the general public is a major concern. Cayin believe the N series DAP has achieve a proper place in the audiophile user community, we want to expand horizontally to the general music lover who probably will not be attracted by N5 or N6.

    I hope the i5 can serve the purpose, we are still working on it right now. As soon as the specification and price is firmed, I'll get back to the HeadFi Cayin community for more detail, I sure want to share the joy of my little baby with my friends and family over here. :beerchug:
     
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  7. zeusminos
    I think that using android is the right way to go, what I see over the years is that some companies do not do well supporting/upgrading to new android versions. My question to you guys are:
    1) are you going to encapsulate your proprietary code into modules, libraries, etc and release the rest to the android community?
    2) are you consider to upgrade to ver 5+ or all the fixes and upgrades will target the current android version?
     
  8. nmatheis Contributor
    Thanks for joining the discussion Andykong!
    :beerchug:
     
  9. Andykong

    That's unlikely for i5 because i5 is a deeply customized android, If you have followed the CanJam Impression thread, you'll come across the following:

    http://www.head-fi.org/t/802161/canjam-socal-2016-impressions-thread-march-19-20-2016/150#post_12437804

    http://www.head-fi.org/t/802161/canjam-socal-2016-impressions-thread-march-19-20-2016/255#post_12441154

    Please understand that i5 is a DAP that utilize the Android edges on UI and control, it is never mean to be a general android device, and upgrade to Lollipop or Marshmallow is not particularly meaningful. The native music player app is a specially developed app from the ground up to bypass all the Android audio features and default setting. If we upgrade the i5 Android to Lollipop, we basically need to rewrite the native music player app completely
     
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  10. zeusminos
    @Andykong thank you for your input. I fully aware of the heavy work that has to be done by a company if they want to upgrade to OS. Sometimes this is possible HW wise but still require considerable work on the SW side.
    IMO Android is attractive since allow you to use music services like Spotify right out of the box, but sometimes this can open the door to some potential issues related to third-party apps.
     
  11. Andykong

    Re-Engineer our product and rewrite our app in order to accommodate potential issues related to third-party apps?

    I think Cayin i5 is not in a position to consider this issue at this moment, we are busy finishing our product for official launch, maybe we can discuss it after i5 is available on market and you have tried out the performance of third party app with the player because that is our biggest concern right now.
     
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  12. zeusminos
    What I trying to say is that as far as I know fiio X7 allow you to install 3rd party apps using their own app store. Not sure if that is an option on the Cayin i5 
     
  13. nmatheis Contributor

    Actually, X7 allows Play Store now. We'll have to wait to see how Cayin handles it...
     
  14. Andykong

    We haven't get to that part yet, we have plans to resolve the the third party applications, but until I have tested it in person, I won't be able to share the options (or the final decision), so please stay tune for that.
     
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  15. deharrison

    Does the i5 have dual clocks so it can play PCM files at their native resolution?
     
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