[IceClass]

Apologies if this has already been covered in a different thread but I had no luck finding any answers through the search engine.

I'm wondering if there's any head-fiers out there who might have had a chance to hear the pairing of a K1000 with the Cayin HA-1 and how they found the results.
I'm not sure if the Cayin puts out enough power for the K1000s.

 

[krmathis]

According to 'Ferbose' in his/her Cayin HA-1A review it can easily drive the K1000. Which makes sense since the HA-1 output 2 x 2 watts (or so), while the K1000 require 1 watt.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f5/ous...review-136513/

 

[Uncle Erik]

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Originally Posted by krmathis /img/forum/go_quote.gif According to 'Ferbose' in his/her Cayin HA-1A review it can easily drive the K1000. Which makes sense since the HA-1 output 2 x 2 watts (or so), while the K1000 require 1 watt. http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f5/ous...review-136513/

Yes, it does work. Ferbose brought his Cayin to the LA meet. We did some A/B listening with another amp and I thought the Cayin was pretty good. I'd like to spend more time with one.

 

[XXII]

Should the K1000 be connected to the speaker output or the headphone output of the Cayin?

 

[Uncle Erik]

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Originally Posted by XXII /img/forum/go_quote.gif Should the K1000 be connected to the speaker output or the headphone output of the Cayin?

You know, I don't remember how Ferbose connected the K-1000 to his Cayin. Though it would probably make more sense to put the K-1000 on the speaker taps, since they're supposed to run off of them. I ran my K-1000 from the back of a Conrad-Johnson amp and just switched it over to the speaker taps on the Si2A3.

 

[XXII]

Looks like its connected at the headphone out..

This doesn't really surprise me. The speaker outs on the Cayin aren't very good..!

 

[IceClass]

As in the quality of materials used in the speaker taps or the sound quality of the output via speakers is poor?

 

[XXII]

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Originally Posted by IceClass /img/forum/go_quote.gif As in the quality of materials used in the speaker taps or the sound quality of the output via speakers is poor?

It sounded very underpowered when I tried it with a cheap set of speakers...

 

[IceClass]

Were the speakers efficient enough for such an amp?

 

[XXII]

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Originally Posted by IceClass /img/forum/go_quote.gif Were the speakers efficient enough for such an amp?

I'm not sure but the speakers were tiny so I assumed it should have been alright. BTW, here's someone else who prefers the headphone out for the K1000

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f113/k...ml#post3038803

 

[TUBEBO]

The speakers I'm guessing were more than likely a low-impedance (4 ohms), low efficiency set. Small, sealed enclosure sets are by nature in-efficient. The Cayin with its small output needs at least an 8 ohms (16 ohms preferable, and of a very high efficiency rating). A vented, horn type loading would be perfect. Even then, the Cayin is really meant to be used at back-ground listening levels with just a few watts per channel available. Perhaps some older JBL, Bozak, or Klipsch speakers would be in order!

 

[jellojoe]

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Originally Posted by XXII /img/forum/go_quote.gif Looks like its connected at the headphone out.. This doesn't really surprise me. The speaker outs on the Cayin aren't very good..!

Are you sure? That looks like a K701 plug to me.

 

[Gradofan2]

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Originally Posted by IceClass /img/forum/go_quote.gif Apologies if this has already been covered in a different thread but I had no luck finding any answers through the search engine. I'm wondering if there's any head-fiers out there who might have had a chance to hear the pairing of a K1000 with the Cayin HA-1 and how they found the results. I'm not sure if the Cayin puts out enough power for the K1000s.

Maybe... but... AKG techs suggest a speaker amp with a minimum of 30 watts into 8 ohms is the minimum required to drive the K-1000s to their potential.

Why mess around with anything less than what AKG recommends? Why invest so much in ear speakers (what the K-1000s are), only to underpower them?

 

[Ferbose]

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Originally Posted by Gradofan2 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Maybe... but... AKG techs suggest a speaker amp with a minimum of 30 watts into 8 ohms is the minimum required to drive the K-1000s to their potential. Why mess around with anything less than what AKG recommends? Why invest so much in ear speakers (what the K-1000s are), only to underpower them?

You misunderstood.
30W into 8 ohms requires 15V voltage swing.
But you never know if your speaker amp can deliver 15V voltage swing into a 120 ohm load (actually K1000's impedance goes to something like 300 ohms).
On the other hand, Cayin HA-1A can reliably deliver >1W into a 120 ohm load or even a 300 ohm load, which is exactly what K1000 needs.

K1000 can be driven by both speaker posts and headphone jack on HA-1A--they sound different. I like to the headphone jack these days.

 

[3nity]

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