Cayin C9: Dual Nutube, Fully Balanced Class A/AB Portable HeadAmp
Oct 11, 2021 at 8:10 PM Post #4,936 of 6,212
There’s a rumor that Chord is releasing the successor to the Mojo early next year, and that’s what I plan to use with my C9 after I buy it. I liked the Mojo, I liked it better than the Hugo I also had.

We are of the same mind, gotta have music on our travels. 👍
Yes, I heard. That’s what I’m waiting for. I have access to a great deal on Hugo 2. But waiting on the Mojo 2 1st
 
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Oct 11, 2021 at 8:57 PM Post #4,937 of 6,212
There’s a rumor that Chord is releasing the successor to the Mojo early next year, and that’s what I plan to use with my C9 after I buy it. I liked the Mojo, I liked it better than the Hugo I also had.

We are of the same mind, gotta have music on our travels. 👍

or, get the upcoming N8ii flagship DAP which going to have dual NuTube, similar to C9. Instead of carrying 3 separate devices, source, usb dac, portable amp, you can carry just one DAP.
 
Oct 11, 2021 at 11:45 PM Post #4,938 of 6,212
or, get the upcoming N8ii flagship DAP which going to have dual NuTube, similar to C9. Instead of carrying 3 separate devices, source, usb dac, portable amp, you can carry just one DAP.

Let’s see what the N8ii looks like, its predecessor was a bit garish for my taste. I agree, though, it certainly would simplify things which I like a lot.
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 12:45 AM Post #4,939 of 6,212
Let’s see what the N8ii looks like, its predecessor was a bit garish for my taste. I agree, though, it certainly would simplify things which I like a lot.
Agree. The UI and responsiveness needs to step up since it’s been about 3 years since the original N8 came out. :)
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 3:38 AM Post #4,940 of 6,212
or, get the upcoming N8ii flagship DAP which going to have dual NuTube, similar to C9. Instead of carrying 3 separate devices, source, usb dac, portable amp, you can carry just one DAP.
Are there announcements already?
Which DAC does it use?
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 10:35 AM Post #4,941 of 6,212
Are there announcements already?
Which DAC does it use?

Don't think that info was shared yet, but as I mentioned in Nic's thread, when Cayin adds "ii" suffix, it usually means... like in N6ii, instead of N3pro and N8. So, let's hope they will follow the same logic to answer what interface/OS to expect :wink:
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 10:50 AM Post #4,942 of 6,212
Don't think that info was shared yet, but as I mentioned in Nic's thread, when Cayin adds "ii" suffix, it usually means... like in N6ii, instead of N3pro and N8. So, let's hope they will follow the same logic to answer what interface/OS to expect :wink:
Cayin R2R with Nutube... RIP my wallet.
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 11:14 AM Post #4,943 of 6,212
Oct 12, 2021 at 11:24 AM Post #4,944 of 6,212
Since R2R daps are the soup de jour these days at the high end, I would be surprised if the N8ii doesn’t employ this design. We’ll see. ✌️
 
Oct 12, 2021 at 12:30 PM Post #4,945 of 6,212
Wishful thinking or confirmed rumors?
Wishfull thinking.
However they have an incredibly successful R2R Module for the N6ii and a new R2R dongle DAC.

It seems to be their answer to the AKM shortage.
 
Oct 15, 2021 at 12:58 PM Post #4,946 of 6,212
Hey folks, would be good if I could some info/advice from you regarding the C9.

I recently purchased the C9 and I am pairing it with a DX312.

I have read back through the whole thread and noted in a few places where people mentioned that when using the Amp11 the gain should be set to low to prevent damage to the DX300.

Considering the Amp12 has a dedicated line out is the recommendation the same?

I have tried testing at different gains and to my ears, there is a noticeable difference to the sound signature when using low gain vs high with the AMP12, even when you increase the output of the C9 to compensate for the lower gain input.

Any input on what I should or shouldn't be doing here for the safety of the gear would be welcome. If it should be low gain then I'll leave it there and move on with that. Thanks.

You should use High gain with a DX312.

The AMP 12 LO specification is a max 4.1v:

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via: https://ibasso.com/product/amp12/
 
Oct 15, 2021 at 1:05 PM Post #4,947 of 6,212
Curious if anyone has paired the C9 with the LPGT and have any thoughts? Thinking this may be my portable/desktop/et al end game. Heard good things with the
PAW6000.

Thanks.
 
Oct 15, 2021 at 1:13 PM Post #4,948 of 6,212
You should use High gain with a DX312.

The AMP 12 LO specification is a max 4.1v:

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via: https://ibasso.com/product/amp12/

Is there another version stated that the MAXIMUM rated output level is 4.1Vrms? It didn't stated MAX output voltage level in your link, nor described that the rated output level of 4.1Vrms is achieved at Low gain or high gain.
 
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Oct 15, 2021 at 1:17 PM Post #4,949 of 6,212
Since R2R daps are the soup de jour these days at the high end, I would be surprised if the N8ii doesn’t employ this design. We’ll see. ✌️

As per to my previous post on this subject (HERE), I have stated that the "N8ii is designed around a pair of current mode DAC chipset that we have never used before. To the best of our knowledge, this DAC chipset has never been used by any portable DAP so far." Clearly N8ii is not R-2R based when I said we used dual DAC chipset in the new player.
 
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Oct 15, 2021 at 1:21 PM Post #4,950 of 6,212
As per to my previous post on this subject (HERE), I have stated that the "N8ii is designed around a pair of current mode DAC chipset that we have never used before. To the best of our knowledge, this DAC chipset has never been used by any portable DAP so far." Clearly N8ii is not R-2R based when I said we used dual DAC chipset in the new player.

Thank you for the clarification. ✌️
 

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