[RTodd]

Yes. I agree. I did think it was pretty weird only offering this size (other than the 3.5mm SE). I also bought another IEM cable from the same retailer terminated with a 4.4mm Balanced plug as an upgrade to the one supplied... now 2.5mm Balanced... cable.

Was it Elysium?

 

[zen87192]

Oh gosh! No. Nowhere near that calibre yet. I've spent so much in the last three weeks with the N6ii with A02 then C9 Amp. Add to this a number of 18650 Batteries, Charger, Case, IEM and additional cable and IC's......
No.... I've only ordered my first wired IEM's from Penon to keep me going. The Orb. Added to that was a Penon Leo Plus 4.4mm Balanced IEM lead as an upgrade. I'm also saving for the Empire Ears Valkyrie MK II at the moment but am keeping my options open to others in this bracket. Also currently running a HiFiman Sundara.

 

[bigbeans]

Until my custom Corpse Cable 4.4mm cable comes in, this’ll have to do! Listening on Trailli (via ZEN DAC Signature), it gets overwhelmed by the power on balanced. What you see is close to maximum listening level for me. May need a 3.5mm retermination or just get a new cable.

Don’t get me wrong, this sounds glorious!!

 

[bluestorm1992]

Until my custom Corpse Cable 4.4mm cable comes in, this’ll have to do! Listening on Trailli (via ZEN DAC Signature), it gets overwhelmed by the power on balanced. What you see is close to maximum listening level for me. May need a 3.5mm retermination or just get a new cable.

Don’t get me wrong, this sounds glorious!!

Great set up! Have you tried to adjust the gain of the DAC? I am worried that a desktop DAC may be way too powerful.

 

[bigbeans]

Great set up! Have you tried to adjust the gain of the DAC? I am worried that a desktop DAC may be way too powerful.

I haven't actually. The desktop DAC is at max level (which I guess is line out?). Would it be ok to adjust the gain on the DAC in addition to using C9 volume?

 

[bluestorm1992]

I haven't actually. The desktop DAC is at max level (which I guess is line out?). Would it be ok to adjust the gain on the DAC in addition to using C9 volume?

That's what I do. For example, even for DAPs, N6ii with A02 has different line-out gain levels, and changing it will dramatically change how loud the gear sounds. I have always kept it in medium gain instead of high gain when listening with IEMs as it will otherwise get too loud.

 

[bigbeans]

That's what I do. For example, even for DAPs, N6ii with A02 has different line-out gain levels, and changing it will dramatically change how loud the gear sounds. I have always kept it in medium gain instead of high gain when listening with IEMs as it will otherwise get too loud.

Hmmmm ok. It seems 12 oclock on the ZEN is perfect. I can get to 10 o'clock on C9. Thanks!

 

[zen87192]

Whoa! Look what's just arrived today! My spanking new N6ii + A02. Finally! It's absolutely awesome. Just connected it to my Tube Amp on low gain streaming Tidal and.... Yup.... that's what I was expecting. Absolute joy of sounds! All I need now is for time to fly until the C9 arrives. Until then... Tube Amp driven it is...

 

[bigbeans]

Whoa! Look what's just arrived today! My spanking new N6ii + A02. Finally! It's absolutely awesome. Just connected it to my Tube Amp on low gain streaming Tidal and.... Yup.... that's what I was expecting. Absolute joy of sounds! All I need now is for time to fly until the C9 arrives. Until then... Tube Amp driven it is...

Is it fair to say...

"You'll Never Be The Same Again"?

aight...I'll see myself out

 

[Whitigir]

Is it fair to say...

"You'll Never Be The Same Again"?

aight...I'll see myself out

I am never the same again, for the first time in a long time that I am eagerly awaiting Cayin new products announcements which never happened before. Also, I don’t care much for newer DAP anymore lol...except Cayin ? Wait....how ?

 

[bigbeans]

Update on Traillii with C9 (Balanced 4.4mm)

It seems there's a limit to how much amping the Traillii can take, regardless of how the DAC gain is set. If you go past 12 o'clock on C9, you will start to hear a series of blips as you move the volume wheel past 12, and you can even hear the feedback from the wheel (this occurred on Empire Odin as well).
In addition, if you start approaching 12 o'clock on C9 increase there is increase in background noise.

C9 does allow for fine adjustments, so not a huge deal, but still something to keep in mind. What I have done is revert back to maxing out gain on DAC, and adjust VERY finely on C9 for best audio performances. @Andykong explained how C9 has electronics to allow fine grain adjustments, so I will take advantage of this.

Edit: This happens with my TH900 as well.

 

[RTodd]

Update on Traillii with C9 (Balanced 4.4mm)

It seems there's a limit to how much amping the Traillii can take, regardless of how the DAC gain is set. If you go past 12 o'clock on C9, you will start to hear a series of blips as you move the volume wheel past 12, and you can even hear the feedback from the wheel (this occurred on Empire Odin as well).
In addition, if you start approaching 12 o'clock on C9 increase there is increase in background noise.

C9 does allow for fine adjustments, so not a huge deal, but still something to keep in mind. What I have done is revert back to maxing out gain on DAC, and adjust VERY finely on C9 for best audio performances. @Andykong explained how C9 has electronics to allow fine grain adjustments, so I will take advantage of this.

Wonder if it is something related to the estat transformer and pushing the voltage over its design threshold? Do the blips sound like coming from the stats?

 

[bigbeans]

Wonder if it is something related to the estat transformer and pushing the voltage over its design threshold? Do the blips sound like coming from the stats?

Ive tried this with my TH900, get the same effect. It seems after 12 o’clock on balanced, it crosses some threshold

I’ve purchased a Cayin 4.4 to 3.5 adapter and see what results I get https://bit.ly/3rKfny5

 

[Whitigir]

Ive tried this with my TH900, get the same effect. It seems after 12 o’clock on balanced, it crosses some threshold

I’ve purchased a Cayin 4.4 to 3.5 adapter and see what results I get https://bit.ly/3rKfny5

Over 12 o’clock on balanced high gain or in both gain ? You hear the Blips ?

 

[bigbeans]

Over 12 o’clock on balanced high gain or in both gain ? You hear the Blips ?

In low gain balanced.

Edit: Happens on MDR Z1R (little less pronounced), TH900.