[x RELIC x]

Anyone heard HD800S with Liquid Carbon?

I'd also be interested in this.

 

[Allanmarcus]

Anyone heard HD800S with Liquid Carbon?

See http://www.head-fi.org/t/787608/cavalli-audios-liquid-carbon-owners-impressions/1740#post_12437638
It talks about that pairing

 

[x RELIC x]

See http://www.head-fi.org/t/787608/cavalli-audios-liquid-carbon-owners-impressions/1740#post_12437638
It talks about that pairing

Already read that. Any more?

 

[mscott58]

Sorry to keep the thread even more off topic, but the Circlotron topology is another way to get a balanced OTL tube amp. Should be familiar to Schiit fans and in the speaker world I believe Atma-Sphere pioneered it's use for their designs. Tungsten looks like a push-pull design to me...

Exactly. My Atma-sphere mono-block amps use that topology. Great stuff. 

 

[sheldaze]

  Anyone heard HD800S with Liquid Carbon?

I did, but I sold the Carbon - less due to HD800/HD800S on the Carbon and more due to comparing one setup:
 
(1) Carbon into HE1000
 
Versus a vastly different setup:
 
(2) DNA Sonett into HD800/HD800S
 
I was after a particular sound on my HE1000 and wasn't hearing it on my Carbon. In short though, HD800S sounded quite good on the Carbon.

 

[jlbrach]

I think my HEK sounds outstanding paired with my hugo and LC.....interesting how different people hear things differently

 

[doctorjazz]

I think my HEK sounds good with the LC, better with my MicroZOTL2, as I've noted ad nauseum...

 

[Stillhart]

Sorry to keep the thread even more off topic, but the Circlotron topology is another way to get a balanced OTL tube amp. Should be familiar to Schiit fans and in the speaker world I believe Atma-Sphere pioneered it's use for their designs. Tungsten looks like a push-pull design to me...

 
I have mucho info about the Tungsten but I'm not super technical so take everything with a grain of salt:
 
1 - In my opinion (and everyone I talked to who heard it), it's better than the Liquid Gold.
2 - That means people should quit asking about balanced. It's one of the best amps you'll ever hear so nobody can say that balanced is always better.
3 - I talked to Alex about balanced vs SE a lot last night.  Without going into details, which I can't relay with accuracy so I won't try, he said a designer can make an SE amp that fully accounts for the benefits of balanced.
4 - It's OTL (output transformer-less) and OCL (output capacitor-less).  The circuit is called a Futterman something something.  I spoke with Donald North about it and he said it's probably a circlotron topology.  I neglected to confirm this with Alex but you know... Donald North knows tube amps.
5 - Holy heck, is it a good sounding amp!!!
 

  Anyone heard HD800S with Liquid Carbon?

 
There was only one HD800S at the show (Sennheiser didn't even bring one!) and I only had a chance to try it on the LW.  I'm going to assume it sounds really good on the LC based on what I heard and my experience with the HD800 and LC.  

 

[fiascogarcia]

   
There was only one HD800S at the show (Sennheiser didn't even bring one!) and I only had a chance to try it on the LW.  I'm going to assume it sounds really good on the LC based on what I heard and my experience with the HD800 and LC.  

 
Any word or rumor on what kind of "pleasant surprises" there might be with the 2nd run of the LC based on user feedback?  Thanks!

 

[Stillhart]

   
Any word or rumor on what kind of "pleasant surprises" there might be with the 2nd run of the LC based on user feedback?  Thanks!

 
I could tell you, but it would make @warrenpchi sad.  He does so love to treasel...  can you imagine what it would do to him?
 

 

[fiascogarcia]

   
I could tell you, but it would make @warrenpchi sad.  He does so love to treasel...  can you imagine what it would do to him?
 

Fair enough! 

  He will announce soon though, right?  

 

[Stillhart]

  Fair enough! 

  He will announce soon though, right?  

 
Yeah, this week or next at the latest, I believe.

 

[yage]

   
4 - It's OTL (output transformer-less) and OCL (output capacitor-less).  The circuit is called a Futterman something something.  I spoke with Donald North about it and he said it's probably a circlotron topology.  I neglected to confirm this with Alex but you know... Donald North knows tube amps. 

 
I think @jude said on the CanJam preview video that the Tungsten uses a Futterman topology. Circlotron would make it balanced since that's the only way it operates. I read in the CanJam thread that you might pay Donald North a visit. Hope you take him up on the offer and get a chance to listen to the Stellaris!

 

[Stillhart]

   
I think @jude said on the CanJam preview video that the Tungsten uses a Futterman topology. Circlotron would make it balanced since that's the only way it operates. I read in the CanJam thread that you might pay Donald North a visit. Hope you take him up on the offer and get a chance to listen to the Stellaris!

 
Well there you go, proving my point that I'm not technical.  

  Thanks for the clarification!  
 
And yeah, I hope I do get to take Donald up on that offer.  Not only does he make great gear, he has awesome taste in music (based on his demos at Riva)!  lol

 

[fiascogarcia]

  I think my HEK sounds outstanding paired with my hugo and LC.....interesting how different people hear things differently

Maybe the Hugo makes the difference.