CanJam London 2019 Impressions thread
Jul 29, 2019 at 2:41 PM Post #196 of 277
So many great iem's and also its almost end of 2019, I personally will hold off buying anything this year as early next year could be interesting. Specially with a baby on the way iem's are my preference so no more money to waste. #make wise decisions
Congrats on the upcoming new addition! I have a 16 month old, and from my personal experience I hardly get to use full-size gear anymore. Your time is gonna be monopolized by your little one! So I have been slowly transitioning to the portable side and I'm actually in the middle of debating about getting out of desktop gear altogether. I only really get to listen during work, when traveling or at night before bed. For all of those use cases IEMs are more convenient/practical.

For you, while the baby is really little and waking up throughout the day/night, listening to music is also impractical because you need to be able to hear him/her cry and spending time in general anyways. So yes, save your money for now and then when little one has a regular sleep cycle you can jump back in (assuming there's anything left after diapers & formula) :p
 
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Jul 29, 2019 at 3:35 PM Post #197 of 277
Thank you Head-Fi for organising this CanJam, I've been to all the London ones but this has been my favourite so far.

My main reason for going was to check out Raal and MySphere with the other flagships.

SR-009/Woo 3ES
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One of the best combos at the show. I've never heard the 009 sound so full with neutral to warm tonality. Every time I heard stax it was very detail and light sounding with moderate bass roll off. Not so in this case, plenty of richness yes surprisingly punchy with the traditional stax detail tho not to the level of detail of the BHSE but I'd happily take the 3ES over it. The stock tubes surely hold it back a bit. Somewhat similar to the Hifiman electrostatic setup but without the flaws.

Abyss TC/WA33
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I've owned the Abyss twice and the TC is an upgrade for sure. I was impressed by the jump in quality from the original to the Phi but it sacrificed the crazy low end of the first series. With the TC you have the same sort of low end with even better details than the Phi. There was quite a bit of sharpness I will blame the WA33 for.

The amp itself is very capable but the stock tubes is holding it back massively. I've listened to the base Psvane 2A3 on my own amp the DNA Stellaris and it's by far the worst 2A3 you can get. I understand their reasoning behind demoing it this way but you should not thing for a moment that's how the amp sounds like. Upgrading will be expensive but at this price point it's a shame and a waste not to.

MySphere
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To my disappointment 3.1 sounding nothing like I remembered it and the tubes on the WA33 and the topaz dac didn't do it any favours. Heinz gave me a pair to try overnight on my own setup and I'll be forever grateful to him.
It's my opinion 3.1 need not only a specialised amplifier with the output impedance of 8-16 ohm but also a high quality one and the Stellaris is one of if not the best amps for it.
Low end is punchy with a slight roll off. Basshead cans these are not and the low end was comparable with the SR1a on demo. The focus and control of the low end is hard to match but keep in mind on loud volume it does start to distort but I don't listen at that kind of volume anyway.
Superbly neutral, the most neutral headphone I know that also sounds natural across the spectrum. Grain free and able to show the smallest nuances of any recording.
Treble is present but not as airy as it can be. I prefer the thinner pads that let the headphone breath easier, soundstage increases and while resolution doesn't increase the additional air makes it feel like it.

Imagine if you could have a bluetooth MySphere...

I only auditioned 3.2 with the gear Woo had available and while not as neutral or suberbly detailed as the 3.1 you get the best midrange anywhere. Vocal tracks are unmatched. Low end is warmer and not as focused and doesn't sound as airy as 3.1 but with those mids who cares. I'm still undecided which to pick if I could only have one, a question I still have to answer.

Thanks to the guys at Woo for answering my technical questions about the amps.

DCS
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Impressive sound and especially how spacious the low end sounded like, the DCS seemed more than capable to bring the best out of the Ethers but not the Abyss, dynamics were not as they could be but still impressive.
With the setup I've written off the TC, it's not the sound but the constant fiddling to find the sweetspot that's the major downside. Other adjustable headphones like K1000,MySphere,Raal you can have a different presentation with various adjustments but the Abyss you either have the crazy bass or you don't.

Blue/Dave
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I'm still not convinced the amp section is capable enough to drive even sensitive headphones. The Empyrean sounded more coherent with the HPA4. I tried my HD650s and it's a far cry from what the headphones can do. Low end wasn't as deep as it can go, the same goes for soundstage. Not enough air between instruments.

HEDD
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Thunderous low end, this will be the bass king of headphones for sure, the weight and body is simply unsurpassed while not bleeding into the mids. A little overbearing and might need less quantity.
Midrange was weird, bit muddy with a not so pleasant tone. Treble was fantastic, one of the most natural representation of delicate cymbals I've heard, better than the SR1a for me.
Didn't pay much attention to the soundstage as all my focus was on the low end. Wish I had more time with them.

Very heavy but still comfortable due to the thick pads. Not an issue for me but for others it may be. You could heard the membrane moving while putting them on when the seal was made, not sure how good that will be for reliability. Audeze has some sort of venting holes in the pads to avoid this. Stax fart I believe it's called.

I do wish they tone down the low end and trade quantity for even more quality, deep lows couldn't be heard but that might have been the hugo. The mid range needs to be fixed, it will be a mistake if they release it as is or close to as is.

Very fast sounding but the muddiness in the mids somewhat overshadows it.

Conrad-Jonson
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This has only a few steps to the volume, like 10 max. Runs uber hot but sound good. Very good actually, TOTL for sure. There wasn't a proper source and I only had my WM1A to work with. Very rich and detailed, a bit dense but not overdone, controlled the crap out of my HD650 and made it sound word class within the limits of the dac.

Verite
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Fast, lush, plenty of detail, too warm for my tastes but impressive.

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The closed Verite looks like a work of art.

Had a nice chat with two legends, the highlight at CanJam for me.
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Focal Stellia
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Very well done low end, plenty of punch and growl with a great sense of spaciousness for a closed headphone. It didn't sound closed just a smaller stage and rolled off detail compared to the Utopia. Couldn't fault it for what it is.

Rupert Neve
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A disappointment, and I blame the use of USB for it. In my system if I use USB directly to the Pavane all the magic is gone and sounds only half as good. Hard to tell good it actually is. Looks great.

LCD-4
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As I remember it when I had it, very lush mid range to a fault, extremely deep low end with fullness but lacks focus. All the detail of a recording is there but due to the roll off it doesn't sparkle. It was a TOTL headphone in its time but not anymore.

Beyerdynamic
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When I asked if they had the T1 I was told that's too oldschool. The DT1770 and DT1990 are good headphones, punchy, 7/10 detail but mid-fi, not the focus for me.

Hifiman Electrostats
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A very expensive sounding setup, not neutral but fun. Similar low end to the 3ES/009, lively with great punch and extension but on the warm-ish side for the increased richness. Treble sounded enhanced somehow, fun to listen to at first but compared to a true reference it doesn't resolve detail as well. A perfect setup for the non audiophile who wants the best.

Headamp GSX mini
More than enough power to drive the Susvara buy maybe not to their full potential, warmer than the GSX MK2 with less treble emphasis. I prefer the original for something like the LCD-4 and this for an allround solid state amp.

Raal SR1a

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I've must have had over an hour total over multiple sessions with the Raal setup. The headphones are great but Danny the CEO is a fantastic guy and always a pleasure to see the top man invested.

The big question about bass, yes they are bass light but not impact light, a crucial difference. Massive Attack doesn't sound as it should nor did any other bass heavy track. Everything else was superb, impact, quantity and quality wise.
Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen is one of my default test tracks and I was 100% satisfied low. Rock was fantastic with Sabaton being a clear success with impact that could be heard and felt not just to satisfaction but impressive levels.

Tilted towards bright sounding without exaggerating peaks or overemphasising treble for the sake of sounding detailed.
Midrange has the biggest presence I've heard in voices, partially due to the sheer size of the soundstage and the tactility of textures. It does lack richness, it's not lean sounding in the slightest but doesn't present all the subtle nuances of a voice when they are partially opened as was my ideal position. Closing them so the ribbons are parallel to the ears I got some of the nuances back but bass tends to bleed and the whole bottom left side of the frequency becomes congested.

Top end is detailed, very detailed, maybe the most. Unforgiving on bad recordings as expected, microdetail to Stax levels is so easily heard without sharpness, harshness and again richness.

What does concern me, even if it doesn't sound sharp or bright overall is the fatigue I got after using it. Could be the glare from the Jot or the ribbons themselves, I don't know and until I'll audition one on better gear I won't be pulling the trigger.

Also I wouldn't take it in this setup over my home one, it does most things to new levels but the lack of richness is kind of a dealbreaker and very hard to relax into. A laid back listen this is not.

If I wasn't knee deep in SET with some interesting experimenting going on now I would have got one but I'll most likely wait for a V2 and see where HEDD ends up as that thing has potential.



Looking forward to the next CanJam.
 
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Jul 29, 2019 at 4:16 PM Post #198 of 277
This was my first Canjam and I enjoyed it immensely.

I loved the atmosphere and the relaxed, informal setting that allowed me to try pretty much anything I wanted. I was there to audition IEMs and I definitely did that! My brief to all of the reps I spoke to was neutral / balanced / reference, in keeping with my ER4XRs. I listened to DSD256 on a vanilla DX228, balanced cables where possible.

Westone:
I started at Westone as I was curious about their house sound. I also see a lot of refurbished sets for sale around and wondered what was going on. I loved the form factor but felt that the house signature was too warm, closed-in and blunted for my liking, even the W80.

64Audio:
Following advice, I was steered towards the U12t and U18t. I found the fit a little awkward and whilst preferring the 18 over the 12, felt that there was too much bass for my liking and not particularly involving.

INEAR:
I was looking forward to trying the Pro-phile 8 which was immediately comfortable, even for its size. The only downside was a single ended cable. I had forgotten to bring a 4.4B - 3.5SE adaptor so used an A&K source they had. I was immediately taken in by the clarity and crispness of the sound with an improved soundstage over my etymotics (although that isn't necessarily that difficult). These were my new reference point for the rest of the show. I forgot to try the switches as I was so enthralled!

Vision Ears:
The house was not my cup of tea, being mainly V/U shaped and not detail/retrieval focused.

Noble:
Jim was really welcoming and accommodating, starting me off with the Katana, which I found a little polite on a reaudition in the afternoon. He noticed my DX220 and suggested I try the Khan to see if there was a repeat of the previously reported interference. Running the latest firmware I can report that there was none. I loved the Khan signature except the overly piercing highs on top of a more "normal" set of highs. I felt that this was coming from the piezo driver and remarked that I would be interested in the Khan but minus the piezo element: a Khan Junior, if you will.....

Campfire:
The gentleman at the stand was very engaging and started me off with the Andromeda. I love the CA design but not the sound, unfortunately. It is a little too warm and relaxed for me. On further discussion, the rep said that this was the house signature and that I was unlikely to find the more referential/neutral sound that I was looking for. Still, very glad I tried them.

Empire Ears:
The guy was on his own and really busy but hats off to him for his level of energy and interaction. He suggested the Empire Studio Reference and Phantom. I preferred the definitely not neutral or particularly reference but lively sound of the ESR. The Phantom was too bass heavy for me. As I was there, I tried the Wraith (which sounded wierdly tinny with the copper cable but better with the recommended silver) and Legend X (excessive sub bass for me but still not that special, I have to admit). The ESR was close second to the PP8 on my list.

Meze:
Exception to my rule but tried the Empyrean. Wow. Worked OK with the DX220 but far better with the rep's N6ii and the desktop setup. Even so, I welled up listening to "roygbiv" from Boards of Canada as the analogue piano washed over me and instantly took me back to warm summers as a child. I didn't see if they had a Rai Penta - if so I missed out on hat.

AMP3:
Chatted with the operator, where I buy a lot of my stuff, to audition the AMP9. Accidentally hot-swapped it. To my surprise, I wasn't that impressed with the differences from AMP8. Smoother, more mature, maybe but not really leaps and bounds ahead of the AMP8, in contrast what I have read on the DX220 thread. Forgot to try the wood IT04 (I have a normal pair of IT04). Agreed that Cayin software and support had a lot to be desired, having previously owned a N5ii. He suggested I try Jerry Harvey and even the Audeze LCDi4.

Others:
Briefly auditioned the Layla but wasn't really feeling it. A bit lifeless, for me. Don't quite get the ergonomics of the bass adjustment on the cable. The LCDi4 were amazing but again, overly bassy - the detail and airiness were superb, however. The Audeze stand had an A&K Kann which is an absolute beast. Could be used as a murder weapon. Tried the Focal Stellia as it was there and felt that it couldn't compete with the Empyrean.

Summary:
As of now, I will be on the lookout for a pair of Prophiles. It would be nice for Empire to have a UK distributor, the European ones don't stock the ESR. I'm hoping that Noble come out with something new soon, too. I will be back next year and will probably take little more time auditioning each IEM, or maybe keep going back to the ones I like again and again.

Thanks to everyone who made Canjam possible. My only wish is that it be a little more frequent in the UK. I would go back to one next week and buy stuff, for sure.
http://www.custom-inearmonitors.co.uk/ have Empire Ears listed for Customs at least. Maybe they could help out with getting you a universal?
 
Jul 29, 2019 at 4:35 PM Post #199 of 277
Congrats on the upcoming new addition! I have a 16 month old, and from my personal experience I hardly get to use full-size gear anymore. Your time is gonna be monopolized by your little one! So I have been slowly transitioning to the portable side and I'm actually in the middle of debating about getting out of desktop gear altogether. I only really get to listen during work, when traveling or at night before bed. For all of those use cases IEMs are more convenient/practical.

For you, while the baby is really little and waking up throughout the day/night, listening to music is also impractical because you need to be able to hear him/her cry and spending time in general anyways. So yes, save your money for now and then when little one has a regular sleep cycle you can jump back in (assuming there's anything left after diapers & formula) :p

dude that does not help at all u scared the hell out me. Her mother agreed to help for the first 6 to 8 months :)
so 2020 its dad and Noble Khan. Hopefully, damn formula and diapers
 
Jul 29, 2019 at 4:43 PM Post #200 of 277
Jul 29, 2019 at 6:52 PM Post #201 of 277
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We have more products on the way and one that will be released in a matter of weeks.

As for your thoughts on a product shares the Khan DNA.

Jim issued that challenge yesterday. Send a PM so I can keep you updated.

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That got my attention...tell me more about that. :)


Not a lot I have to tell. I gave it a short listen in Chicago. Its very small and sits very flush in the ears. As I said, its suppose to be in the sub $1000 level pricing but I don't want to say exactly what that will be since they may have changed their minds, lets just say even under $900. Should be launching in August some time.
 
Jul 30, 2019 at 2:48 AM Post #204 of 277
Here’s one. I had high hopes of this and I listened to all the models yesterday. It certainly was the least ‘warm sounding’ of them all and clearly benefits from a meaty amp. Most models sound a little like an updated Meze Classic without the bass issues. Ultimately whilst I can understand many folk loving them I decided that Focal Stellias were more to my taste but as I also use a Stax 009S based-system I guess my view is somewhat coloured.

Focal vs. ZMF, is like yin and yang, up and down, north against south, unes vs solid state some will be drawn to the bright, detailed Focal, others to organic, flowing, comfort, a zen battle of earth (ZMF) versus air (Focal)! Or I could have said it’s a matter of personal taste :wink:.
 
Jul 30, 2019 at 2:51 AM Post #205 of 277
Its time to just ditch CanJam London and have them weekly in my area. :v:

I take your not going to mention Interpol’s red alert and the pub incident?
 
Jul 30, 2019 at 3:13 AM Post #206 of 277
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Having the Warwick Acoustics isolation Booth to myself


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Jul 30, 2019 at 4:56 AM Post #207 of 277
If money is not even an object but just a downright irrelevance, the Elysium is an IEM that has a tonality and presentation that competes with over ear cans for me. Rich, warm and very resolving in a subtle way, this gives that rich sort of tube / analogue tonality to music while not skimping on bass or details. Very well done, and the accessory pack is on another level, along with the feel of the silver shells. Is it worth £4k? Depends if that is a lot of money to you - it's definitely a beautiful listen, but not a bang for the buck one in my opinion.

Thanks for stopping by and testing our In-Ears! I guess you mean the ERLKöNIG in this comment. Not to confuse anyone: The ERLKöNIG is the generic IEM with silver shells and the ELYSIUM the Tribryd CIEM.
 
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Jul 30, 2019 at 5:00 AM Post #208 of 277
Thanks for stopping by and testing our In-Ears! I guess you mean the ERLKöNIG in this comment. Not to confuse anyone: The ERLKöNIG is the generic IEM with silver shells and the ELYSIUM the Tribryd CIEM.

Hi guys - good spot. Spent so long working on the main impressions blog think I went a bit word-blind! Yes, you are right - will edit the original post now.
 
Jul 30, 2019 at 6:14 AM Post #210 of 277
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Jomo Audio Tornado: Highlight of the show for me, what is it? It's the most consistent ear tip I have used. Good seal with wide bore and less likely to get pressure within your ears when trying to get a deep fit. Easily one of my favourite tip.


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Jomo Audio Trinity SS: The best implementation of the new Sonion E-stat IEM I have heard. Finally one sounds shimmery in the right place and well balanced but difficult to drive with low powered source.

InEar SD5: I gave it more time this year, a very natural sounding IEM. Works well with a wide array of recordings unlike the PP8 that can be a bit too ruthless.

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64 Audio U18t: Best sounding IEM within their range, a warm neutral tuning with a great balance across the range.

FiiO M11Pro: Great DAP with the build quality to rival AK competitions at a much lower price, output power on the low side if you are planning to drive full size.

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FiiO FH7: A well built, well balanced hybrid at a reasonable price point. Easily completes with more expensive offerings, amazing value in the current market.


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InEar SD5 Union Jack, JH Audio Sunburst: Joint prettiest IEM shell at the show.

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Benchmark HPA4: Extremely clean and quiet, drives pretty much everything. Including high sensitivity IEMs extremely well.

Acostune range: Interesting design, very solid and coherent sounding IEMs throughout their model lineup. I would personally pick the cheapest one within the range as it is already very accomplished only separated by minute differences between the models.

MySphere: Surprising amount of bass but still can't cope with all kind of music. Clipped on heavy EDM bass.

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RAAL: Truly surprisingly capable across the whole range, great dynamics even without any earcups. Did not clip on the same music the MySphere did but overall a bit too bright for me. Might sound smoother at a quieter venue.
 
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