Campfire Audio - Introducing 2 new models Hello Andromeda and Nova

Dec 27, 2020 at 7:43 PM Post #9,301 of 9,829
Can you elaborate on this a little? As I am in the same position as you had been prior to hearing the Elysium with the concerns of the single BA bass I’ll be curious to hear what flipped it for you?

Simply due to the bass response. I know some who didn't get on with the Ely because they didn't think its bass response was acceptable. It could possibly be a fit/seal issue in some cases as if you don't have a good seal what bass there is will diminish and the signature will lose much of its life. Still, I know there is a "bass threshold" that some people are not willing to go across. I've had people tell me since literally the day I got it originally that the bass on the Solaris was "weak"...yet it was fine for me. In fact, it was a huge personal highlight of the signature and where I first started to realize that there was a whole world out there beyond the bass . People similarly told/tell me repeatedly the bass on the Andromeda is "weak sauce"...however, again, I am totally fine with it. I've come to learn that big/heavy/dominant bass is not something I need/demand as much as many people do. The Elysium has shown me that there is much to be gained in terms of emotional connection by the bass being reduced to a support role so your ears/heart/mind can focus more completely on the midrange-- which, as I am coming to see more clearly each minute I'm with the Elysium, contains the emotional core of much of what we listen to. Still, like anything else, it won't be everyone's thing.
 
Dec 27, 2020 at 7:46 PM Post #9,302 of 9,829
So who had @Rockwell75 selling his solaris on their crazy crap happening in 2020 bingo card? Cause of all the things that have happened this year that might be the craziest. I kid I kid, but only a little.
Head Fi Bingo Card: yes. 2020 Definitely not. From what I've heard of the Solaris SE (Haven't heard it myself) is that you there's room to improve if the budget exists.

Elysium for me definitely definitely beats out the MW10 Tonality wise (S-/A+) , sits on equal footing on a technical level (S-), but looses out in musicality (S- to B+). Mids are super capable and all but it's dry and boring, I prefer VE8 in that regard. If musicality wasn't more of a subjective thing that my specialist clause ignores for S ranked iems, the MW10 would swap rank with the Elysium.
 
Dec 27, 2020 at 7:58 PM Post #9,303 of 9,829
Head Fi Bingo Card: yes. 2020 Definitely not. From what I've heard of the Solaris SE (Haven't heard it myself) is that you there's room to improve if the budget exists.

That's pretty much a platitude. My experience at high $$ tiers is limited however the Elysium is the first IEM I've heard that has constituted a bona fide upgrade to Andromeda/Solaris for me.

Elysium...Mids are super capable and all but it's dry and boring

This is one of those "I disagree so profoundly with this statement so as to render a response next to impossible" sort of statements. Either you weren't powering them properly (they're the most power hungry IEMs I've owned) or our tastes/ears are radically different. Either way, YMMV.
 
Dec 27, 2020 at 8:11 PM Post #9,304 of 9,829
This is one of those "I disagree so profoundly with this statement so as to render a response next to impossible" sort of statements. Either you weren't powering them properly (they're the most power hungry IEMs I've owned) or our tastes/ears are radically different. Either way, YMMV.

There's definitely something you're hearing that I'm not.

@Colors @riverground also agreed with my assesment of the Elysium so I don't think driving power is an issue at all.

FWIW my choice of mids specialist would still be Zeus.
 
Dec 27, 2020 at 8:53 PM Post #9,305 of 9,829
That's pretty much a platitude. My experience at high $$ tiers is limited however the Elysium is the first IEM I've heard that has constituted a bona fide upgrade to Andromeda/Solaris for me.



This is one of those "I disagree so profoundly with this statement so as to render a response next to impossible" sort of statements. Either you weren't powering them properly (they're the most power hungry IEMs I've owned) or our tastes/ears are radically different. Either way, YMMV.
There's definitely something you're hearing that I'm not.

@Colors @riverground also agreed with my assesment of the Elysium so I don't think driving power is an issue at all.

FWIW my choice of mids specialist would still be Zeus.

This same polarising view exists between Erlkonig impressions. Some find it to sound overly clean, dry and boring. While others (myself included) find it to sound wet, emotional and highly engaging. I guess it’s just a preference thing like most stuff in this hobby, although it is interesting that both VE models have this discrepancy.

Anyway back on topic, I’ve got an Andro S, Gold and V3 all on the way :) looking forward to comparing those three with MW10
 
Dec 27, 2020 at 9:00 PM Post #9,306 of 9,829
This same polarising view exists between Erlkonig impressions. Some find it to sound overly clean, dry and boring. While others (myself included) find it to sound wet, emotional and highly engaging. I guess it’s just a preference thing like most stuff in this hobby, although it is interesting that both VE models have this discrepancy.

Anyway back on topic, I’ve got an Andro S, Gold and V3 all on the way :) looking forward to comparing those three with MW10

TBF there exist polarizing opinions on just about every facet of just about every piece of gear. YMMV is the most fundamental reality of this hobby. Congrats on the Andro collection. After spending a few hours a/b'ing both my view is that the SE Solaris is basically an MW10 with a DD.
 
Dec 27, 2020 at 10:37 PM Post #9,309 of 9,829
Where my AG gang at :C
 
Dec 28, 2020 at 12:19 AM Post #9,310 of 9,829
Dec 28, 2020 at 12:49 AM Post #9,311 of 9,829
We are all in the Andromeda gang. :)

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Dec 28, 2020 at 1:24 AM Post #9,312 of 9,829

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