Campfire Audio - Introducing 2 new models Hello Andromeda and Nova
Sep 11, 2016 at 9:13 PM Post #2,806 of 9,829
   
When did this happen, and anyone got any pics?  I haven't seen any examples with smoother edges.

If you look closely at the inside edges of the pics of the Andromeda @kino lau took, you'll note that there are extra facets that aren't present on the Nova (at least the set I had and the one you reviewed). The second pic shows it most clearly, though it might still be hard to make out because it's in the shadowy areas.
 
Sep 11, 2016 at 9:46 PM Post #2,807 of 9,829
  Sorry if this has been asked before, but was it mentioned that the Andromeda's shell will be modified to a smoother or rounder corners?  If so, when will this update be available? I haven't been able to audition the Andromeda, only the Nova and its sharp corners was a deal killer for my ears.

 
There really is not much difference, we added 2 very small extra facets. Its really almost not noticeable. Anyhow I dont think it is much of a big deal so we did not really publicize the 2 extra facets. I posted some time ago about it. I really do not want anyone to get worked up about it. All our current units have the 2 extra facets. I do plan to also use the "older" non extra faceted shells for some special edition IEMs at a later date.
 
So to answer your question no there is not a modified smoother rounder corner IEM now or in the works.
 
Thanks
 
Ken
 
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Sep 11, 2016 at 11:13 PM Post #2,808 of 9,829
  If you look closely at the inside edges of the pics of the Andromeda @kino lau took, you'll note that there are extra facets that aren't present on the Nova (at least the set I had and the one you reviewed). The second pic shows it most clearly, though it might still be hard to make out because it's in the shadowy areas.

 
Thanks.  WCDChee had me thinking the edges had been rounded - sadly not so. @alpha421 - unfortunately this means no relief for the hard edges.
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 12:09 AM Post #2,811 of 9,829
  Thank you everyone for your replies. But I will mainly use the andromeda for commuting and would like a cable on the thinner side. Any recommendations?

The stock cable is already quite supple and not really that thick. And it's already a very nice cable. I suppose if you wanted something even thinner, the thinnest cable I know of is the Linum BAX, dunno what sort of sound difference you may perceive.
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 9:20 AM Post #2,813 of 9,829
I'm with the above two posts. The stock cable is excellent quality and sounds great. In my "opinion" spending any money on another cable for commuting would be a waste. Unless you are trying to find something with a microphone. 
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 9:52 AM Post #2,814 of 9,829
  The stock cable is already quite supple and not really that thick. And it's already a very nice cable. I suppose if you wanted something even thinner, the thinnest cable I know of is the Linum BAX, dunno what sort of sound difference you may perceive.

Thanks a lot for your suggestion.
Since you guys speak so highly of the cable, I think I might stick with it. What I suppose is that I want a black cable that is similarly looking to the stock cable (thin). I think I really would like a green black color scheme. Please do tell me if such a cable exists on the market given that the sound quality is still on par with the stock cable.
 
Thanks
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 11:32 AM Post #2,815 of 9,829
  Thanks a lot for your suggestion.
Since you guys speak so highly of the cable, I think I might stick with it. What I suppose is that I want a black cable that is similarly looking to the stock cable (thin). I think I really would like a green black color scheme. Please do tell me if such a cable exists on the market given that the sound quality is still on par with the stock cable.
 
Thanks

Sound wise (if you are into that) Twister6 says he prefers stock. Check out his review on the Andromeda for all the details.
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 12:00 PM Post #2,816 of 9,829
I personally like the andromeda best with it being used with the following (all at once)
 
1) Low impedance source
2) LARGE bore tips like the JVC spiral tips especially
3) a cable with a well controlled and very tight bass with sparkly highs
 
This is of course my personal preference, and our mileage may vary. I find people to generally like richer, smoother sounds than I do in general, in which case it would work excellently with the stock cable, a low impedance source and the JVC spiral tips :)
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 8:54 PM Post #2,817 of 9,829
My full review of text and photos at 
http://headpie.blogspot.jp/2016/05/campfire-audio-andromeda-review.html
Also reviews for the NOVA and JUPITER can be found.
 
here are the highlights.....
 
Campfire Audio Andromeda Review - Expatinjapan (originally published May 2016)
 

 
 
https://campfireaudio.com/andromeda/
Campfire Audio is the IEM sibling of ALO Audio.
 

 

Build
The build of the Campfire Audio Andromeda is exquisite. Seemingly a classic in the making in its overall look and design. The quality of the machining is beautiful to look at, each unit is piece of art in itself.
It casts an illusion of hardness and weight, yet the converse is true. The Andromeda is lightweight and solid, yet fits within the ears with a softness If you will.
Five balanced armature drivers with a tubeless resonator box into a machined aluminum enclosure.
 
Each part is precision machined out of aluminum with one large bore hole and two smaller bore holes. The two halves of the housing being connected by bolts. Seamless.
 

 
Using MMCX connectors with reinforcement makes for a safe and sturdy cable where it counts the most. The ability to swap out the 3.5mm cable for a 2.5mm balanced cable (not included) is also a plus.
 

 
 
The new Litz wire cable makes its entrance into the Campfire audio range and will eventually be the standard cable for all the CA range. No need for any cable upgrades with this beauty.
 
Packaging
The Campfire audio Andromeda comes in a simple box like its predecessors, yet with one important difference in detail. Now one can easily open the box once the plastic shrink wrap is removed without having to cut into it. It was a painful procedure to go through when I received The Jupiter. Now as you can see in the photos it opens easily like a flower in bloom.
 

 
The Andromeda comes with a beautiful case like its other IEM siblings in the Campfire Audio range. This time the color is a rich chocolate brown leather case with a wool lining. Well made and strong. Attractive and stylish to look upon.
 

 
 
 
 
The Andromeda, like the other IEMs in the Campfire Audio range comes with the same accessories to get you started on your way to aural bliss. Three packs of tips, a cleaning brush and a delicate CA pin for those special occasions. The tips are Comply, stock foam and silicone and come in three sizes of S, M and L.
 

 
 
Fit
Coming from the Jupiter all my past concerns about fit have passed, perhaps the Campfire range is not for all ears, but for me the look is false and the fit is true.
They are comfortable for lengthy periods of time, the nozzles is angled just so, perfect to slip easily into the ear canal. The memory wire that graces the upper ear locks everything in place.
As usual one has to do some tip rolling to find which tip achieves the best fit, isolation and comfort.
If the supplied tips don`t fit your fancy there are many quality aftermarket tips out there to buy and try. I would hazard a guess that most people purchasing a TOTL IEM like the Andromeda would already have a healthy collection of various tips to choose from.
 
The Campfire Audio IEMs do look like sharp edged heavy beasts, but really they anything but that.
Light, well designed to fit within the inner ear and with a delicately angled nozzle assist to achieve a decent seal to aid one along the path to musical happiness.
 

 

Chin slider to assist in maintaining a secure fit.
 

 

Sound
The Campfire Audio Andromeda IEM is a wonder of design, vision and engineering.
It ticks all the right boxes for me and what I have read so far from others early impressions it also rings their bells.
The Andromeda for now sits at the top of the Campfire Audio range of IEMs, will there be a further development in the future? I hope so, even though with the advent of the Andromeda I am curious If it can be done better.
 

My first impressions of the Andromeda were positive.
*My impressions are short and possibly not wholly accurate due to my short time listening to the Andromeda at the Fujiya Avic Headphone Show in Tokyo, Japan. April 2016.
The sound was fuller than the Jupiter, or it could be the lush and sweet mid range now coming through.
My Jupiter is smooth, articulate and airy. A nice low end and highs. A soft small u shape.
The Andromeda seems to pack more power, it seems flatter in a reference sense, same low and high ends but it has more in the middle. Not warm either. Musical yet tending towards reference.
Clear, clarity, detailed, also articulate.
Excellent instrument separation, width, height, speed, layering etc are wonderful. The main word that springs to mind is soundstage. It has a great extension from the low to the high end. 
It has a very balanced sound across the board, yet also musical.
 
I did most of my listening to the Andromeda with the Centrance Hifi-Skyn, ipod 6G 128GB using Flacplayer app by Dan Leehr. I started the review after a burn time of 100 hours.
The Campfire Audio Andromeda IEM is a work of wonder. It is without a doubt one of the best IEMs I have had the good fortune to listen to. Whereas many earphones and headphones are built for a particular type of music or a persons sonic preferences the Andromeda seems to pull a magical trick where it is all things for all people.
One might say it goes against the saying `a jack of all trades` by changing the final conclusion to `a master of them all`.
I try to avoid new toy joy and hype city by placing my new items into a merry go round of burn in for a good number of days which allows for my initial excitement to die down somewhat, so I might approach the review with a sense of objectiveness. 
I have tried to plumb the depths of the Andromeda for its many weaknesses and can uncover no glaring faults.
It truly is a work of wonder in this saturated market of multi driver IEMs and TOTL Daps.
 
The Andromedas soundstage is the main thing most first time listeners will notice, it extends beautifully and fully to both ends of the spectrum. One head-fier even described it as `holographic`, one could even add 3D-ish but that sounds cheaper so lets run with holographic.
It is controlled well at the high and low ends, the bass being powerful, fast and clear and not shy to pack a punch. The treble is clear and sparkly and extends well into the distance without any hint of sibilance or harshness. It has a mid range that is lush, open and even one could say sweet.
The sub bass stays in its place well enough as does the bass, mid range and treble, there does not appear to be any bleed through inappropriately through the layers.
The Andromeda walks a tightrope being both well balanced and even reference sounding to a degree, yet also musical but without the usual accompanying coloring that other IEMs offer.
It has great resolution, layering and has fantastic micro detailing with the right Dap.
They are smooth, even organic to a degree, detailed and have a fast response overall. I find I am able to listen to the Andromeda for lengthy periods of time without fatigue.
 
 

 
Campfire Audio Andromeda frequency chart, courtesy of CA.
 

Value
The Andromeda ranges from US$999 to US$1,099 depending on whether you jumped quickly onto the pre-order bandwagon. Whether that is still live at the time of this article being published is worth a quick look.
https://campfireaudio.com/andromeda/
Value is a fickle thing. It varies in life from experience, to objects, people and so on.
In the audio world it is often harder to gauge.
Does the Andromeda tick all the right boxes, I would have to say yes.
Build, yes. Packaging, small and simple. Yes. Fit, well for me thats a yes.
Sound, definitely a yes.
It a TOTL IEM at a TOTL price point, and justifiably so as it delivers on the promise of high end audio.
 

 
 
Overall
The Campfire Andromeda is one of the best IEMs ever to grace my ears. It shines in all areas of performance, admittedly I fear I may have missed its faults but I did my darned best to uncover them.
 
One might call the Andromeda `Jupiter perfected`, the missing mids in the Jupiters soft lower case u sound shape were gorgeously present with the arrival of the Andromeda.
One Head-fier (Hisoundfi) described the sound of the Andromeda as `holographic` and thats a term that I keep returning to as it echoes in my memory.
I have tried it with various sources: ipod touch 6G, Centrance Hifi-Skyn, Centrance Mini-M8, Shozy Alien Gold, Fiio M3, Seiun player.... and to my ears it seems to be constant in its performance.
 
The build of the three Campfire Audio IEMs I have is impeccable. They are solid and robust.
Made from one block of precision machined aluminum and held together by bolts. They certainly are sturdy. They appear heavy to the eye but in fact are quite lightweight.
Whilst they may look sharp at first glance, they are well designed and fit into my ears without any uncomfortable rubbing, the cable has a memory wire which also helps to lock them in place although they seem to sit there quite well by themselves.

 They have a lot of straight lines and not so many curves as most IEMs have, but rest assured it is comfortable fit.
The nozzles are angled in such a way as to enter the ear canal easily, and are long enough to get a good seal and isolation.
 
The cable is strong and well made. The braided cable gives a sense of strength and beauty and it is reinforced at the MMCX connector.`
 
In summary the Campfire Audio Andromeda takes a seat at the table of the TOTL IEMs and rightfully so, no doubt as more of the Andromeda units find their way into other reviewers hands many will echo my findings, not through any malicious plagiarism but simply the Andromeda is coherent and consistent in its performance.
Perhaps some other reviewer can find a glaring fault, I could not.
 
The Andromeda...smooth, resolving, huge soundstage, detailed, beautifully designed and made.....
 

 
 
 
 
Thank you to Campfire Audio for sending Head pie the Andromeda
-expatinjapan
 
 
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I will upload my NOVA review soon also.
 
Sep 13, 2016 at 5:41 PM Post #2,818 of 9,829
Quick question for the beat and brightest. Have any of you had shorting issues with the Nova and it's packaged wires? I've had my since the initial Massdrop launch. The headphones have sat in their case except for two flights and a road trip. So all use has been pretty ststionary. Fit, sound quality have been pretty fantastic.

But on an international flight this week, the right cable started to short out. It's clearly at the connector and in the cabling. And with so little use I'm surprised that it's become an issue so quickly. I know, every use is different, but I don't beat up on my products and haven't had it long enough for it to be an issue.

So two questions: is this a common thing? And if so, what sturdier replacements are people using? I love the look and the sound quality of the stock cable is great. But the quality leaves me worried now.
 
Sep 13, 2016 at 6:10 PM Post #2,819 of 9,829
Quick question for the beat and brightest. Have any of you had shorting issues with the Nova and it's packaged wires? I've had my since the initial Massdrop launch. The headphones have sat in their case except for two flights and a road trip. So all use has been pretty ststionary. Fit, sound quality have been pretty fantastic.

But on an international flight this week, the right cable started to short out. It's clearly at the connector and in the cabling. And with so little use I'm surprised that it's become an issue so quickly. I know, every use is different, but I don't beat up on my products and haven't had it long enough for it to be an issue.

So two questions: is this a common thing? And if so, what sturdier replacements are people using? I love the look and the sound quality of the stock cable is great. But the quality leaves me worried now.

 
Out of interest, are you able to try any of these options:
 - Novas with stock cable with different source
 - Novas with different cable (any source)
 - other IEM with Campfire cable
 
I thought I had an issue with the right side, from the start for me. But I sent them in and it could not be replicated. Having got them back (after Brooko had them and I can only assume he had no issues) I still have the issue - but only with Nova, with the stock cable, and my phone as a source. The Nova works fine with another cable, and the stock cable works fine with another IEM, and even the Nova with stock works on other sources, its just I usually use my phone (HTC M9). Would be fascinated if you had a similar issue - and in trying you'd know for sure if it is a fault. In that case Ken is very accommodating so you'd be taken care of. 
 
Sep 13, 2016 at 6:19 PM Post #2,820 of 9,829
Out of interest, are you able to try any of these options:
 - Novas with stock cable with different source
 - Novas with different cable (any source)
 - other IEM with Campfire cable


Other headphones on the Android device (emergency iPhone earbuds) were fine. Issue repro's on an iPad or a Nexus. Travelling, access to a cable swap isn't possible, but it is pretty clearly a short in the cable. Wiggling the cable at the connection point does all the telltale static and reconnecting behavior you'd expect. It's also pretty clearly in the cable or at the connection point if cable to connector, but not connector to connector. That's super sturdy.

Again, great sounding product, nice fit, best in ear headphones I've owned and in my experience these trumped my previous best of Sennheiser ie80's. Just dismayed at cable longevity and if others have more durable recommendations or if maybe I am an outlier.
 

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