doublea71
Headphoneus Supremus
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Yeah, maybe that's a better description. Okay, time to go get away from the laptop and go into the outside world.
When I bought headphones the last time, I made an effort to find ones that were as flat as possible. Sometimes you just want to plug into a player directly and EQ isn't available.
Yeah. I don't know what I'd do with headphones without access to EQ.
Indeed. That's why I made sure to get a portable player with at least some kind of customizable EQ, even though it's limited. When I'm at home of course I have a computer. All the headphones I've had so far possessed what I consider flaws in the FR, most commonly treble peaks which needed taming.
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The only thing I said was that hi-fi doesn't really mean the same thing to this new wave of enthusiasts.
High fidelity—or hi-fi or hifi —reproduction is a term used by home stereo listeners and home audio enthusiasts (audiophiles) to refer to high-quality reproduction of sound[1] to distinguish it from the poorer quality sound produced by inexpensive audio equipment, or the inferior quality of sound reproduction characteristic of recordings made until the late 1940s. Ideally, high-fidelity equipment has minimal amounts of noise and distortion and an accurate frequency response.
One effort to standardize the term was the 1966 German Deutsches Institut für Normung (DIN) standard DIN 45500. DIN 45500 approval was intended to provide audio equipment buyers with reassurance that their equipment was capable of good quality reproduction. In theory, only stereo equipment that met the standard could bear the words 'Hi-Fi'. This standard was well intentioned but only mildly successful; in practice, the term was widely misapplied to audio products that did not remotely approach the DIN basis specifications.
And for the guy that compared an M3 to a pair of Beats...that's hardly an accurate appraisal of my analogy. An M3 is a very capable car (er, tank) and is more enjoyable to drive than a Corvette (in my opinion). If it was a souped-up Honda with ridiculous rims in my analogy, then you'd have me...
I think the term "high fidelity" is in the midst of an etymological change, for better or worse.
Maybe you should tell Jude to stop accepting ad dollars from companies that produce gear with a mid-bass hump or a treble spike, etc. since these companies don't make proper hi-fi gear. That would be akin to sacrilege for a true hi-fi man, no?
Then how do you define hi-fi?
From Wikipedia:
That's why I said the analogy doesn't work. I didn't compare the M3 to Beats, I made a new analogy to your position of dismissing measurements because they don't tell you if you like something. (Which to a degree is wrong as LizardKing1 pointed out.)
I don't think so. This is what we have the "new" terms mid- and low-fi for.
No, that doesn't make much sense. Tell people not to buy mid-/low-fi (or crap aka no-fi) if they are looking for hi-fi. It's as simple as that.
The "associate the guy I'm disagreeing with with Beats in order to discredit him even though there is no evidence to support this" argument is rather weak and as transparent as the gear you seek.
You clearly feel that your sacred cow is being threatened and are responding emotionally. That's fine with me, as well.
With regards to headphones, the meaning of the term "high fidelity" is likely going to change, whether you want it to or not; such is the nature of language. Case in point: (also from wikipedia) The meaning of the term "lo-fi" has changed over time; in the 1970s vacuum tube equipment was considered the lower fidelity alternative to the new semiconductor solid state equipment, although some still consider valves the only "pure" way of listening to music.
We are not living in Germany in the 1960s. Headphones can be tuned to suit people's preferences without horrid amounts of noise and distortion and there's nothing inherently wrong with calling them hi-fi products in 2012.
I don't think so. This is what we have the "new" terms mid- and low-fi for.
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In fact I'd say in common usage Hi-Fi almost solely describes how expensive a sound system is or how expensive it looks...
I've been working on a sequel to PiccoloNamek's EQ guide here:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/615417/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-advanced-tutorial-in-progress
but haven't had the energy to finish it. Would love to get some input from the more tech-savvy and objectivist audience here
Except mid-fi and low-fi mostly just stand for middle- and lo-budget sound systems, with little regard for how hi-fidelity they actually are in the sense of sound production fidelity. Have to agree with doublea here, in common usage the term "hi-fi" has long since fallen out of meaning "hi fidelity".
In fact I'd say in common usage Hi-Fi almost solely describes how expensive a sound system is or how expensive it looks...
Except mid-fi and low-fi mostly just stand for middle- and lo-budget sound systems, with little regard for how hi-fidelity they actually are in the sense of sound production fidelity. Have to agree with doublea here, in common usage the term "hi-fi" has long since fallen out of meaning "hi fidelity".
In fact I'd say in common usage Hi-Fi almost solely describes how expensive a sound system is or how expensive it looks...
Except mid-fi and low-fi mostly just stand for middle- and lo-budget sound systems, with little regard for how hi-fidelity they actually are in the sense of sound production fidelity. Have to agree with doublea here, in common usage the term "hi-fi" has long since fallen out of meaning "hi fidelity".
In fact I'd say in common usage Hi-Fi almost solely describes how expensive a sound system is or how expensive it looks...