C&C Box Portable Headphone Amp: not really a compete review.

Jan 24, 2007 at 2:38 PM Post #61 of 104
http://www.mingo-hmw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=29671

http://www.erji.net/read.php?tid=218741&fpage=1

2 topics about c&c box on HK and chinese forums just use google translate
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Jan 24, 2007 at 7:18 PM Post #62 of 104
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Originally Posted by theory_87 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
since i'm a ex pa2v2 user and a current C&C box user. my answer will be yes. there is more soundstage with SF switch on, treble extension is far greater with MF switch on and bass with LF switch. i switch everything on with SF5pro and KSC75, off MFwith more forward phones like um2, um1, ck9, ovc tc20



ok i'll get one. thanks
 
Jan 24, 2007 at 10:12 PM Post #63 of 104
After doing alot of research on Audiostation Forum(Thanks Sant & Nismo) and here on HeadFi(Thanks jamato8). I finally ordered the Amp. C&C BOX Portable Headphone Amplifier v2 Free Shipping on ebay.
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Jan 27, 2007 at 1:45 AM Post #64 of 104
I got my C&C Box today!! And so far, as my first amp.. i'm LOVING it! At the moment, i can't help but try out all my headphones.. i just can't choose which ones to use for my initial impressions. Yes, i'm switching from my Vibes to my HD595s to DT770s and to the JBL 220s. I'm so close to calling my plans off with the GF to have more time with it
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.. but that would be very bad. What should i dooo
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Jan 27, 2007 at 2:40 AM Post #65 of 104
Get a splitter and you can both listen! :^)

The C&C is a lot of fun and had a great soundstage.
 
Feb 8, 2007 at 2:01 PM Post #66 of 104
in my simple was [ as usual ] hehe. the sound stage switch. without it the left and right side come from just below the ear and what the sound stage button does to me is speard the sound out and place it above the ear. the bass boost works as well , just not to the level of the ss switch. the voice or mid/high mid as I refer to it. brings forward vocal , especially female vocal and guitar, sax, flugal horn and the like. all in all I think all three enhancment switches do what they are intended to do in a pleasing way, at least to my ears. And the battery life [I don't know exact] is awesome, it played for more than 2 days straight. I got the silver one, for one reason , that it'll still be the same color even if beaten up, whereas the black will be silver where scratched. Took a black sharpie to the tick mark of the volco, nice visual aid
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.... Power? power to spare, can drive both the 701 and 650's no worries. I don't find it quite as ... um clean and natural as the P1 but its a very nice amp for the money as well. as the 3 sound enhance switches are done well, so much that I actually use them to shape different music sounds to suit my liking at any given time.
 
Feb 9, 2007 at 2:54 AM Post #68 of 104
Feb 9, 2007 at 12:43 PM Post #71 of 104
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Feb 9, 2007 at 3:19 PM Post #72 of 104
I think all of the amps being reported on are the V2 type.
 
Feb 9, 2007 at 5:05 PM Post #74 of 104
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When more people get the chance to test it, I hope this affordable amp comes up on top . Maybe then, other manufacturers/sellers would stop ripping us off.


As an individual who was looking into manufacturing some amps, I can tell you that in most cases, we aren't being ripped off. When one factors in the amount of work that goes into:
  • labour - unlike made in China amps, amps built in North America and Europe cost a lot more to manufacture. As a trade off you get (usually) a high quality testing and assembly set-up. People in developed nations seems to forget this when they bark at corporations for sending manufacturing overseas to more "competitive" (more like cheap labour at the cost of people's rights/lives - look carefully at jamato8's blog/pics) markets that kill the middle/working class...
  • parts - yes, the good parts are VERY expensive; a cap that provides 20% better sound can easily cost 5-10X more than the 'basic' part - case in point: Elna Cerafine caps sound better than panasonic FM caps (IME); for the pleasure of cerafine caps, one has to pay somewhere in the vicinity of 5X the FM price for the cerafine caps...
  • equipment and supplies - a decent soldering iron for good quality soldering runs at least $75; add flux, solder, cleaning braid, proper tips, wire cutters, etc, etc. and you have a cost of a few hundred $$$ for tools and supplies... remember that jigs and other capital type equipment are required to work things like cases and boards.
  • cases - these are super expensive: a good case that isn't off-the-shelf (like C&C/Little Dot) can easily run half the amp's cost. Off-the-shelf ones can still cost ~25% of the amps cost.
  • PCB - good quality PCB's cost ~ 1/3 of the amp's cost.
  • shipping - supplies and materials to the manufacturer;
  • overhead costs
  • profit - let's remember that these people have to make a living that will make it worth their while to provide us with these audio delights!

Anyway, I realize I'm ranting and don't want to pick on anyone in particular. I just figure that the argument you posed in my quote above has circulated for likely as long as people have been doing business and figured that people need to realize that a LOT of work/energy and effort goes into making a business successful and worthwhile to maintain.

Many have criticized John Grado for his pricing and distribution policies (as an example). Bottom line, he makes his cans in NYC, not Ireland or China; he also makes his cans out of machined Al and mahogany. The other manufacturers don't.

Having said all that, IME you get what you pay for...take that for what it's worth. If you're getting a bargain in an ethical and/or legal manner, you're either paying for it elsewhere or paying for the discount in some other way.
 

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