Burson V6 Vivid and V6 Classic Discrete Audio Opamps Discussion and Reviews

Oct 7, 2017 at 6:40 AM Post #106 of 554
Thank you for that clarification! Nice to hear from Bursoun themselves here at the forum - really good manufacturer support!

Last week, I listened some more to my portable rig with my own assembled Lovely Black Cube, using the Burson V6 Vivid. And I like the sound more and more, maybe it´s like many already stated; They need some burn in time.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the...ehmann-black-cube-linear-clone.501046/page-95
 
Oct 10, 2017 at 7:24 AM Post #107 of 554
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Today is really a different day for me for the first time I am gonna try BURSON OP-AMPS, I received only the V6_VIVID_single OP AMPS.

Right now I am gonna try this 2 sexy looking OP AMPS for my sexy Card ZxR. and I will post my reviews once I am done with the sound test.
 
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Oct 11, 2017 at 12:23 AM Post #109 of 554
I did ask that question to Alex at Burson and you can mix the Vivid and Classic in the same box. Ideally you you want the same op-amp for both channels. It can not hurt. Duals are used when differential inputs are being used.
 
Oct 13, 2017 at 4:57 PM Post #111 of 554
Hi guys, ordered my 3x dual Vivid's for STX II about a week ago.
Will post how they sound once I get them and then after they warm up.
Any idea about when should I expect them? Got nothing about it at all

You should be getting your tracking number on your email as soon as they shipped. I bought 2x duals 2x singles V6 Classic and got the tracking number hours after making the order 3 days ago. They mentioned that I should be expecting to receive the items within 10-14 working days.
 
Oct 14, 2017 at 7:04 AM Post #112 of 554
Hi guys, ordered my 3x dual Vivid's for STX II about a week ago.
Will post how they sound once I get them and then after they warm up.
Any idea about when should I expect them? Got nothing about it at all
Yes, that´s correct! For me, it took twelve week day´s from payment until I received the tracking number - the shipping took max one week and was shipped fron Hong Kong.

A strange thing I notieced was regardless it was tracked shipping, I just received it in my mail box. No signing from me needed.

I live in Sweden.
 
Oct 14, 2017 at 10:12 AM Post #114 of 554
@alphanumerix1
Just put 2 vivids into STX2 yesterday, first I was so disappointed with the flat lifeless bassless sound and I preferred the default MUSES setup over Vivids....took them 24 hours of playing to start revealing some of their magic.....you will have to move capacitors slightly as vivids are a bit large.....
 
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Oct 14, 2017 at 10:26 AM Post #115 of 554
@alphanumerix1
Just put 2 vivids into STX2 yesterday, first I was so disappointed with the flat lifeless bassless sound and I preferred the default MUSES setup over Vivids....took them 10 hours to start revealing some of their magic.....you will have to move capacitors slightly as vivids are a bit large.....

Isn't it enough to use the extra sockets the op amps come with? With the V5 I did not have to move anything. Just plug-and-play.
 
Oct 14, 2017 at 10:40 AM Post #116 of 554
I plugged V6 directly into the board without extra sockets, the housing of opamps is a little big so you have to tilt the capacitors just slightly to fit. I guess with extra sockets you can just plug and play.
 
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Oct 14, 2017 at 10:48 PM Post #118 of 554
Asus Xonar STX with V5i vs V6 Vivid vs Woo Audio Fireflies (Gen2)
I'm a PC gamer, a tinkerer and a modder. Plus I really value good quality audio.
I bought my Asus Xonar STX back in 2012 when I built my first water-cooled gaming pc. I’ve been rolling opamps for a few years as a hobby but until recently nothing really stood out.

A few months back I was reading and saw some impressive reviews on the Burson Audio opamps but I wasn't ready to part with the EMI shield just yet so I bought Burson V5i's for the I/V section. To tell the truth I wasn't overly impressed at first. Don't get me wrong- they sounded great; nice full sound, wide soundstage and the instrument placement/positional audio in games was nicely presented, but they weren’t life changing great which I had hoped.
BTW- the new V5i's are different to some of the other V5i's I’ve seen in this forum- they don't have that little lip at the bottom anymore so they slot in real nice without fuss.
Anyway, it wasn't until I swapped them out for my previous favourites (LME4970NA) that I could appreciate how good the V5i's actually were. I found the LME4970NA's were hollow and closed in comparison and the difference was so pronounced that I was soon looking forward to putting the V5i's back in.

A few weeks later I got that itch again and started looking at the V5’s to see if they were a justifiable upgrade to the V5i’s. I saw the V6’s available for order. But the EMI shield!?! What do I do? So, I emailed Burson to see if they could shed some light on the importance on the shield. I asked, "Will removing the EMI/RFI shield (to fit the taller discrete amps) make any noticeable difference with interference?”
I got a response, "Based on our experience the EMI shield on the STX card is purely cosmetic. We have done some lab test and we did not see any change to the noise performance in relation to the card with or without the shield."

I ordered two V6 Vivid's. But they were taking a while to post and I got impatient (and a little crazy TBH). I bought a Woo Audio Fireflies (Gen2), a pair of Sennheiser HD600s and subscription to Tidal Masters.
They arrived before the V6's. That combination was the incredible experience I was looking for. The Fireflies paired with the HD600s were so very warm, natural, clear, deep and smooth. Not a huge soundstage though which I hadn't expected. The treble is in no way fatiguing to listen to and even at high volumes. The sound is very flat and un-molested however it's not all gravy...
Movies and games do sound good with the Fireflies but it seems to be missing a defined punchiness to the cracks and gunshots and explosions that i really enjoy. It's as if they were just too natural? Too smooth? It's hard to describe because there's nothing actually missing. Maybe I’m just used to the accentuated bass and treble in a lot of other speakers, headphones and amps. I like to be almost startled by those sounds in movies and games and that's definitely missing with the Fireflies.

Eventually the Burson Audio V6 Vivid's arrived. I removed the EMI shield, strapped in the little red towers and plugged it all in. The sound... Mother of God the sound is phenomenal!
So much punch, great soundstage and positional audio in games. Everything sounds brighter and more exciting with the V6's than with the Fireflies. The gunshots and explosions sound louder in contrast and give me that "WOW" factor I was looking for. There is no doubt in my mind they're noticeable improvement over the stock opamps and even the V5i's. I really love gaming with them; Escape from Tarkov, PUBG, Doom, Overwatch, Nier: Automata and Senua's Sacrifice all need to be heard through the V6 Vivids. It's really something else.

Music is pretty great too but I honestly prefer the Fireflies experience for music and that’s mostly because the brightness of the V6's high end can be slightly fatiguing with the volume up high for long periods. But really, now I’m comparing the STX upgraded with Burson V6's to the likes of the $1600 Fireflies... and to me that makes them crazy good.

PS. I got bored and cut a hole in the EMI shield for the V6 Vivids! Best of both worlds now. :D

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Can you please tell me whether the sound is warm or bright with the vivid while you are using the Hd 600?

Edit : I meant while listening music not gaming.
 
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Oct 15, 2017 at 4:25 AM Post #119 of 554
@alphanumerix1
Just put 2 vivids into STX2 yesterday, first I was so disappointed with the flat lifeless bassless sound and I preferred the default MUSES setup over Vivids....took them 24 hours of playing to start revealing some of their magic.....you will have to move capacitors slightly as vivids are a bit large.....

Yes the fit is a little tight but they fit without issues of course. I have 3 vivids currently plugged into my stx.

Sound impressions then full review to follow.
 
Oct 15, 2017 at 5:05 AM Post #120 of 554
Are those extra sockets comes free or have to pay for those? can you please upload a pic of those sockets? I've not seen those.
The V6 are from factory assembled at one DIP-socket and are then also inserted in an extra similar socket, and this one can easily be removed by just carefully pull apart it.

There are two advantages of removing the extra socket; The height of the V6 will be about 5mm lower and also will it minimize the risk of bad connection caused by oxide with time, but at least the socket pin´s are gold plated to minimize this risk (the most reliable way is to first remove the extra socket and then solder directly to the board - but of course this will not be easy to swap out in the future).
 
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