BOSE's Commitment
Dec 26, 2010 at 6:00 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 16

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http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/popup/shop_online/shopping_tools/pop_commitment.jsp
 
Sounds like they're claiming to do the opposite of what pretty much every Head-Fier says about them.
 
Dec 26, 2010 at 6:04 PM Post #2 of 16
What else can they say ?

I still wait for the day I'll see a company whose statement is : "We strive to extract as much as we can from your purse while giving you out as little as we can".
 
Dec 26, 2010 at 10:04 PM Post #3 of 16

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We take great pride in designing each of our products with the goal of providing the lowest materials cost possible for that product. We strive to fill our pockets as much as possible. And we strive to avoid bass and/or treble frequencies. While those sounds may be initially attractive to the audiophile, they are not real and are not enduring. In addition, we use only the lowest quality parts and the latest Chinese assembly and quality control techniques to ensure the short life of our products.
 
Our reputation rests on our steadfast pursuit of this policy in sound systems for the home, the automobile, and businesses.
 
At Bose® we reinvest 100% of our earnings back into marketing. This enables us to support marketing that continually gives rise to new profits for ruining sound reproduction.
 
When you purchase any product from Bose, we encourage you to compare it, as we do, to dollar store junk for musical accuracy. We believe that this process will reduce your appreciation of the product you select.
 
With best wishes from all of us at Bose for many years of unpleasant listening.

 
Dec 27, 2010 at 12:13 AM Post #5 of 16
A company can claim whatever they want:
 
For example, this is BP's value statement
 
In all our activities we seek to display some unchanging, fundamental qualities – integrity, honest dealing, treating everyone with respect and dignity, striving for mutual advantage and contributing to human progress.
 
A mission or commitment statement means nothing other than some nice words some marketing team put together to make the company "look good" and make the consumer "feel good" and reduce buyers remorse, which it sounds like you are experiencing. I know you didn't say you owned any product, and I apologize if you don't but I don't see the point of this thread otherwise.
 
Dec 27, 2010 at 12:32 AM Post #6 of 16
http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2010/12/26/bose_quietly_makes_its_mark/?page=1
 
This article claims that they have a higher retail price to cost ratio than most electronic companies aim for and that they don't believe in reduce the cost of their products as their own components costs come down because  “we like to find that price point where we can recoup our investment in all of our R&D, and invest more back into R&D.’’
 
Dec 27, 2010 at 12:41 AM Post #7 of 16


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http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2010/12/26/bose_quietly_makes_its_mark/?page=1
 
This article claims that they have a higher retail price to cost ratio than most electronic companies aim for and that they don't believe in reduce the cost of their products as their own components costs come down because  “we like to find that price point where we can recoup our investment in all of our R&D, and invest more back into R&D.’’



that was the article I was looking for! 
 
Dec 27, 2010 at 10:16 AM Post #8 of 16
 “Most manufacturers aim for a 5-1 ratio of the retail price to the cost of the good,’’ Krampf says. “Bose gets to about 7-1.’’ 
 
What I was taught in college is that an item's manufacturing cost cannot exceed 10 to 15% of the retail price.
While the writer muses why the price hasn't come down, he should be wondering why the price hasn't risen along with the CPI.
 
Dec 27, 2010 at 2:06 PM Post #9 of 16
this is a very interesting article. kinda old, but still a good read.
 
http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html
 

 


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Dec 27, 2010 at 4:41 PM Post #10 of 16
Heh. Look around the Bose site and see if you can find a single graph for the response of any product.

There's a very good reason they don't publish those; their products are inaccurate and measure terribly.

The only thing Bose works on is pushing the WAF. Tiny boxes fit well into decorating schemes, so women are often the deciding factor in a stereo purchase. (Apologies to the women of superior intelligence and good taste at Head-Fi for painting with a broad brush - you know what matters in a sound system. :))
 
Dec 28, 2010 at 1:41 PM Post #11 of 16
Do they know that they are getting terrible reviews among hifi enthusiasts?
It seems that almost any headphone company has a representative on this forum except for bose.
 
Dec 30, 2010 at 8:30 PM Post #12 of 16
No, Bose only submits its products to publications whose expertise in sound is questionable at best, and lo and behold, what should the centerfold be but a gigantic Bose ad. Hmm...I wonder if there might be a conflict of interest here. :chinscratch:
 
It's marketing, pure and simple. Social psychology has given us many wonderful things over the past 50 years. Unfortunately, it has also taught unscrupulous marketing teams how to manipulate consumers. The golden rule of advertising and politics: say something enough times, and get enough people saying it, and most people believe it's true. Anyone who goes against the flow just ends up looking contrarian or uncool.
 
It's a proven formula for success: turn out a product, tell everybody how great it is and show attractive, happy people using it, and watch as its success becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Everybody wants the flashy new product, most can't tell the difference, but everybody wants to show their friends and onlookers that their gear pwns. A high MSRP actually contributes to the success because everybody knows about the product, everybody knows it's expensive, and everybody envies you a little bit for having said product. Plus, it even has a built-in fail safe: people tend to stand by their decisions, sometimes vehemently, when they've invested a lot in them, both financially and in terms of credibility. If you just blew $300 on a set of cans and some "expert" from Dead-Psy or whatever the heck it is tells you it's crap, are you going to want to believe them? Of course not.
 
The best we can do is make sure our friends and family don't fall for the marketing. And, if they're adamant, against inspired lunacy, what can you do?
 
Dec 30, 2010 at 8:59 PM Post #13 of 16
Just finished reading it... As expected, but until now, I didn't know the extent of Bose fallacy.
 
Quote:
this is a very interesting article. kinda old, but still a good read.
 
http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html

 
Jan 10, 2011 at 6:20 PM Post #14 of 16

 
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We take great pride in designing each of our products with the goal of providing the lowest materials cost possible for that product. We strive to fill our pockets as much as possible. And we strive to avoid bass and/or treble frequencies. While those sounds may be initially attractive to the audiophile, they are not real and are not enduring. In addition, we use only the lowest quality parts and the latest Chinese assembly and quality control techniques to ensure the short life of our products.
 
Our reputation rests on our steadfast pursuit of this policy in sound systems for the home, the automobile, and businesses.
 
At Bose® we reinvest 100% of our earnings back into marketing. This enables us to support marketing that continually gives rise to new profits for ruining sound reproduction.
 
When you purchase any product from Bose, we encourage you to compare it, as we do, to dollar store junk for musical accuracy. We believe that this process will reduce your appreciation of the product you select.
 
With best wishes from all of us at Bose for many years of unpleasant listening.




Lol, now I have something to show to those annoying a$$ bose fans at my school.
 
Jan 10, 2011 at 6:46 PM Post #15 of 16
its always a sad day when someone I know asks me about good headphones, or audio in general. I find myself investing time and dedication talking about it, only to find out a week later that they went with Bose or Beats...because its the best
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