Bitcoin/Crypto Currency Thread

Jun 12, 2022 at 5:34 PM Post #16 of 30
I have been bearish on Cryptocurrencies from day one. The single most important attribute of a currency is price stability. All Cryptocurrencies have been utter failures in this regard. So, it has become a speculative investment and as a gold alternative. The appeal of cryptocurrencies is that it is hard to create new "bitcoins" as the arithmetic required to find them takes tremendous computing power. This counters the common criticism of Central banks that simply print money to solve monetary issues in an economy thereby devaluing their currencies. Crypto mining takes so much power that it takes more energy than Google in its entirety uses and many small countries. It is an environmental disaster and unsustainable just from a mining new digital coins perspective. Many investment analysts claim that cryptocurrencies are a good substitute for gold as a safety investment because it is hard to create more of it. This is a fallacy. The reason why Gold is a good safe harbor is that it is hard to get more of it AND it has utility for jewelry and other real purposes. What you can buy with an ounce of gold today is roughly equivalent to what you could buy 100 years ago. So, a good currency has price stability with the following attributes: limited in quantity and hard to reproduce, supported by a broad community with an active trading system, utlilty outside of its use as a safe haven for storing value.

In order for cryptocurrencies to have long term viability, there must be a large and growing use of the underlying technology as use of bit coins in practical applications. Such applications are not as storing value, but in applications such as contract management and enforcement. That is likely to happen, but my guess is that the price to support such applications are significantly lower than today's prices. Bitcoin is today trading around $27,500. I wouldn't touch this investment with a 10 foot poll.

Here is what Warren Buffet, arguably the best investor in the world, said about Crypocurrencies.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/02/warren-buffett-wouldnt-spend-25-on-all-of-the-bitcoin-in-the-world.html#:~:text=Buffett has long been against,he said at the time.

Warren Buffett wouldn’t buy ‘all of the bitcoin in the world’ for $25: ‘It doesn’t produce anything’​


He attributed the allure of bitcoin to a type of “magic” that draws investors.

“Whether it goes up or down in the next year or five years or 10 years, I don’t know. But one thing I’m sure of is that it doesn’t multiply, it doesn’t produce anything,” he said. “It’s got a magic to it, and people have attached magic to lots of things.”

Buffett has long been against cryptocurrencies. He told CNBC in 2018 that “they will come to a bad ending” and said that Berkshire Hathaway will “never have a position in them.”

“I get into enough trouble with the things I think I know something about,” he said at the time. “Why in the world should I take a long or short position in something I don’t know about?”

Seems like those were prescient comments as the majority of investors in Cryptocurrencies are under water. PT Barnum actually never said it, but truer words never been more a propos, "there is a sucker born every minute." Don't be a sucker. Stay away from Cryptocurrencies.
 
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Oct 10, 2024 at 8:25 AM Post #19 of 30
yea i have some, true believer since 2016

imo we will see 100k in 2025
 
Oct 10, 2024 at 8:26 AM Post #20 of 30
honestly? its hard to give a good entry point now but i would advice people to look into bitcoin, you might regret it in 10 years...
 
Oct 10, 2024 at 8:32 AM Post #22 of 30
I'm targeting ~$220-240K
if a hype comes up, yea definitely possible, tho it kinda looks so and so currently

definitely keep the 5. of december in mind.... trump is pro crypto, tho i also wouldnt bet on a huge price increase... but this could be the groundstone for more to come, so we will see
 
Oct 10, 2024 at 9:25 AM Post #23 of 30
It seems to me that cryptocurrencies are a very risky investment; if you decide to do this, you should be very careful and selective. But it is better, in my opinion, to invest in stocks and real estate. Forex trading is also very profitable now. My friend calculated with the help of a forex profit calculator that he earned twice as much on forex over the past six months as a bank clerk. But this friend has an economic education and work experience in a bank, so he knows how to analyze the financial market. Using https://cryptfunder.io/ is a game changer for anyone involved in cryptocurrency. It provides a user-friendly platform for decentralized payments, enabling quick transactions with lower fees. The integration of security features ensures peace of mind, making it an attractive option for both individuals and businesses looking to streamline their crypto operations.
So I decided to start my bitcoin journey too. Looks like its good time to begin
 
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Oct 10, 2024 at 9:56 AM Post #25 of 30
imo the potential benefit of bitcoin reaching 1M far outweights the potential loss

if you are really "against" crypto but still invest, diversify is the key point here, put in crypto as much you feel comfortable with to lose but its simply stupid in the current situation to completely ignore bitcoin, we could reach 1M before it finally crashes, who knows
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 2:10 PM Post #26 of 30
There's nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come. There is a confluence of secular macro trends decades in the making - from declining trust in institutions, runaway sovereign debt (and zero political will to do anything about it), the digitization of all things, and more - that will make the idea of a credibly neutral, digital native monetary system irresistible if not inevitable.

I no longer attempt to "convert" Bitcoin naysayers, nor do I spend time refuting their "points" online because 1) Brandolini's law and 2) I've found many of them are not arguing in good faith. These types are mainly tech or IT adjacent professionals who have internalized "tech-savvy" as part of their identity (aka take pride in being known as early adopters and/or the tech support among their friends and family).
Despite learning of Bitcoin early on they dismissed it as a scam or vaporware. The fact that something like Bitcoin emerged from right under their noses, from their supposed area of expertise and they got it wrong (often confidently and loudly) has made them bitter people. These people will never change their mind as the cognitive dissonance would be too great. Just like other radically new developments throughout history, progress advances one funeral at a time.

Bitcoin as a value proposition is either worth zero or millions. With each passing day of existence the chances of the former decreases while the latter increases. Do your own research.
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 2:15 PM Post #27 of 30
There's nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come. There is a confluence of secular macro trends decades in the making - from declining trust in institutions, runaway sovereign debt (and zero political will to do anything about it), the digitization of all things, and more - that will make the idea of a credibly neutral, digital native monetary system irresistible if not inevitable.

I no longer attempt to "convert" Bitcoin naysayers, nor do I spend time refuting their "points" online because 1) Brandolini's law and 2) I've found many of them are not arguing in good faith. These types are mainly tech or IT adjacent professionals who have internalized "tech-savvy" as part of their identity (aka take pride in being known as early adopters and/or the tech support among their friends and family).
Despite learning of Bitcoin early on they dismissed it as a scam or vaporware. The fact that something like Bitcoin emerged from right under their noses, from their supposed area of expertise and they got it wrong (often confidently and loudly) has made them bitter people. These people will never change their mind as the cognitive dissonance would be too great. Just like other radically new developments throughout history, progress advances one funeral at a time.

Bitcoin as a value proposition is either worth zero or millions. With each passing day of existence the chances of the former decreases while the latter increases. Do your own research.

I only invest in domocoin. You should too!

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Apr 20, 2025 at 3:21 PM Post #29 of 30
There's nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come. There is a confluence of secular macro trends decades in the making - from declining trust in institutions, runaway sovereign debt (and zero political will to do anything about it), the digitization of all things, and more - that will make the idea of a credibly neutral, digital native monetary system irresistible if not inevitable.

I no longer attempt to "convert" Bitcoin naysayers, nor do I spend time refuting their "points" online because 1) Brandolini's law and 2) I've found many of them are not arguing in good faith. These types are mainly tech or IT adjacent professionals who have internalized "tech-savvy" as part of their identity (aka take pride in being known as early adopters and/or the tech support among their friends and family).
Despite learning of Bitcoin early on they dismissed it as a scam or vaporware. The fact that something like Bitcoin emerged from right under their noses, from their supposed area of expertise and they got it wrong (often confidently and loudly) has made them bitter people. These people will never change their mind as the cognitive dissonance would be too great. Just like other radically new developments throughout history, progress advances one funeral at a time. If you want to get involved, a quick search for Crypto Com phone number can guide you toward some helpful resources for getting started.

Bitcoin as a value proposition is either worth zero or millions. With each passing day of existence the chances of the former decreases while the latter increases. Do your own research.
Yeah, I hold some crypto too—been a wild ride. The recent drop hit hard, and converting it to audio gear sounds like a solid move honestly. At least now you've got something real and useful instead of just red numbers on a screen. What gear did you get?
 
Apr 21, 2025 at 10:33 AM Post #30 of 30
Yeah, I hold some crypto too—been a wild ride. The recent drop hit hard, and converting it to audio gear sounds like a solid move honestly. At least now you've got something real and useful instead of just red numbers on a screen. What gear did you get?

Greetings fellow crypto enthusiast. I’m actually doing the opposite and deploying additional capital. Ethereum is especially undervalued here, and if/when ETF staking is approved ETH will be in the unique position of being a yield-bearing (increasingly) uncorrelated asset. To each his/her own though as we all have different outlooks and priorities. Having been through a few cycles since 2013 this feels like a classic Wave 2, “pause that refreshes” scenario but then again I have a tolerance for risk/pain that’s more… well let’s just leave it at more and omit any value judgement. If I happen to be wrong then I have no problem with hodling through a bear market just as I’ve done many times before.

As for audio gear, I haven’t upgraded my equipment in quite a while. For 2.2 channel I’ve been happy with my setup of: NAD C658 > Benchmark ABH2 > Revel F328Be + 2x JL F113v2. At the computer when I need to keep it down I have Sony MDR-Z1Rs, for long(er) trips the Shure KSE1200s, and the Shure SE846+RMCE-TW and AirPods Pro 2s for general use/working out/etc. I have a plethora of other headphones and IEMs but other than a select few (KZ ZS10Pro+AZ20) they mostly collect dust.
 

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