Mhog55
Headphoneus Supremus
Are we still able to use general dual 3.5mm cables with these (like the T5 2nd), or do these have a proprietary connection method.. Lock and twist, etc?
All the pictures which are showing the drivers mounted without the black plastic washers, are actually T5p 1st generation.
The picture which is showing the drivers mounted with the black plastic washers, a rubber bumper at the edge of the drivers, a sonic damper in the inserted in the middle, is T5p 2nd generation (or 3rd generation).
Beyerdynamics remove the "ribs" on the driver baffle frame from the 2nd generation, making the frame less stiff and the resonance frequency lower.
Are we still able to use general dual 3.5mm cables with these (like the T5 2nd), or do these have a proprietary connection method.. Lock and twist, etc?
I was wondering this as well, so thank you.I just got a custom cable for the T5.3 and it is the same as T5P.2. Yes, it is a standard 3.5mm plug, but the sockets are recessed so you need specific plugs that will fit so make sure your cable maker has experience with this. Most generic 3.5mm plugs won't fit.
So I probably can't use the balanced 99 Classics cable with them, due to the recessed sockets? This cable works with the gen 2.I just got a custom cable for the T5.3 and it is the same as T5P.2. Yes, it is a standard 3.5mm plug, but the sockets are recessed so you need specific plugs that will fit so make sure your cable maker has experience with this. Most generic 3.5mm plugs won't fit.
Sockets on both gen2 ad gen3 are recessed. They are the same.So I probably can't use the balanced 99 Classics cable with them, due to the recessed sockets? This cable works with the gen 2.
Wow, sorry I missed answering this, well they are similar in so many ways - it's power and the XUS208 on the BTR5 - which sounds bad for the BTR3k but no it's actually good as somethings the XUS208 won't interface with like the Nintendo Switch and PS4 - the BTR3k works great with those - I've got a Gulikit dedicated for my Switch dock, but I've also used the BTR3k mobile with the Switch.What are the true differences between BTR5 and BTR3K? I'd like to get one of them so I can use the A.Home and T x.x wireless when needed.
Ending comments - I've been listening with my new balanced cable and yes, it does sound better - extension, separation, soundstage. However that's has more to do with my sources which are all optimized for the balanced output. If you have a great single ended source, it will sound great.
Last comments and impressions for the T5 Gen 3 are my criticisms:
Taking my criticisms together with my earlier impressions, I think most folks who try the T5 Gen 3 (assuming proper fit) will find it to be a good to great closed back option. For T5 to be a "great" option for you, it would mean the following:
- It's still a closed back headphone. There is a reason why there are so many more options for open back headphones at the high end versus closed back. If you have a listening environment that works for open back, that will give you the best listening experience with the bonus of much better dollar to performance ratio. Please, no asking for comparisons of the T5 to open backs like my Utopias.
- Being closed back, I do hear some unwanted low frequency resonances in the T5 that overshadows the lowest sub bass frequencies. The only closed back headphone that seemed to eliminate this was the HD820 with that crazy concave glass back and resonance ejection ports. However, at that point you have to ask, why even try to be a closed back when the sound isolation is not that much better than open? At least T5 does a good job of keeping external noises muted and contain sound bleed.
- As some have said, the ear pads look big from the outside but are pretty thick inside so there is much less space to fit ears completely inside the pads. Fortunately, my own ears just clear, but I think a decent number of folks will find some of their ear lobe getting pinched by the pads. The T5P Gen 1 has much thinner pads in this regard.
- Included cable - as I mentioned before, it's a flat cable that has horrible ergonomics because it loops and is pretty stiff. Cable upgrade is highly recommended so factor that into cost.
- 32 ohm input impedance - probably not an issue for most, but many high powered desktop amps have pretty high output impedance as high as 10 ohms. The max output impedance you would want for T5 is 4 ohms or less. Most TOTL headphones have impedances 100+ ohms.
- I can't complete this sentence - "the T5 Gen 3 has the best xxxxxxx I've heard from a headphone".
- You understand the limitations for closed back, but need the sound isolation.
- You are looking for an organic, natural tone that favors an emotional listening experience versus analytical.
- You want lightweight and comfort - with the caveat that your ears fit inside the pads.
- You want to use both portable and lower power desktop amps, all with low output impedances.
- You have a grand to spend LOL
I just got these headphones, what balanced cable do you recommend. Also, do you think the chord mojo would make any difference?