akg fanboy
Headphoneus Supremus
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hmmm, how many cm/inches difference is the sound stage in width and length do you perceive between dt1770 and hd800? maybe i built it up too high in my imagination after reading review about how its like a concert hall or a big room, i really only heard it from coming next to my ear, just a bit out, maybe 2 cm further than dt1770s sound stage. i was very aware its a headphone and right next to my ear, not even like speaker
i also didnt feel more detail in the hd800, it was more pleasant, but i didnt hear things that ive never heard before on the dt1770, (even on 6000 euro rig, which rules out underamps and not full potential stuff), the cliche people always say when they upgrade
ofc i do hear differences in details, but just one more pronounced/emphasized over one another, but thats sound signature, not detail i think
, its said hd800 can produce the overtone of instruments better and more precisely, didnt hear that at all
what do you think, i just have wooden ears or?
I don't think you have wooden ears, everyone puts value in headphones differently or maybe your impressions were too short/you didn't A/B test them at hand so you are just comparing them on memory. I've heard people say the dt770 and dt1770 sound the same and some people say the hd700 and m50x sound the same...
I really think the whole "I'm hearing things I never heard before" is a cliche, and that should only really happen if you were using cheap headphones with incapable drivers or very dark sounding headphones. Once you get to a certain point you should be able to hear all the details in a recording because the drivers inheritly don't have a night and day difference. What makes the hd800 stand out is that every little detail is easily audible and you can hear even the faintest details without trying to look for them. The best analogy I can make is a darker headphone like the hd600 having slightly blurry lenses and the hd800 having ultra sharp lenses. The details are still visible on both lenses but the sharp lenses will make it easier to pick up
Soundstage is very hard to measure and I would not be able to give a precise estimate on how far or near a headphone makes the music sound. But I would say the hd800 has a good 30-40% soundstage increase compared to the dt1770, your perception might be different and influenced by expectations. The best way I compare soundstage is by using a headphone after using my hd800 and seeing if I get the "closed in" or "congested" feeling