Beyerdynamic DT 1990 PRO // DT 1990 PRO MK II -- Impressions Thread

[FritzS]

DT1990 Pro Mods to get nearly the sound of MKII

I own the DT1990 Pro, mostly use analytic pads
How can I modify it to get close to the sound of the DT1990 MKII?
Analytic pads from the MKII (or are they the same?), or the acoustic fleece from the MKII?
Are these already available as spare parts?

DT1990 versus DT1990 MKII

Are there any frequency response graphs of the DT1990 MKII available for comparison?

I see here https://www.head-fi.org/threads/bey...ressions-thread.814629/page-328#post-18413528

 

[arielext]

I know that the acoustic fleece is already available since they are the same as those used in the DT 900 PRO and DT 700 PRO. I used them on the DT 1990 PRO mk1 with good results. https://www.head-fi.org/threads/bey...ressions-thread.814629/page-321#post-18208109

 

[blochsidisco]

Thanks but no thanks Beyer. I thought you were bringing that 8k treble peak down, but instead you wonky up the uppermids and insist on keeping the mount Beyer instact.
…and why would the pro crowd want that upper midrange vs the natural one found over mk1? Puzzling to say the least
The original DT1990 looks much better to me tbh.

Then again there are probably those who will like this newer version more. YMMV, we all hear differently and all that jazz…but personally I’m out.
I was actually really looking forward to this one.

It's true, the new MkII is a much more intense listening experience than the OG. They may have tamed the 8k (which didn't even bother me that much), but overall it's a brighter sound signature.

For studio use, it might actually not get much better than this. You are literally bombarded with clear detail and pinpoint staging. But for pure music enjoyment, not so much.

 

[FritzS]

....... But for pure music enjoyment, not so much.

For pure relaxing music ......
At the moment, I listening with HD 600 or HD 490 Pro plus
....
AA Composer for audiophil HighEnd, DT1990 analytic pads for analysing

 

[canchet]

I know that the acoustic fleece is already available since they are the same as those used in the DT 900 PRO and DT 700 PRO. I used them on the DT 1990 PRO mk1 with good results. https://www.head-fi.org/threads/bey...ressions-thread.814629/page-321#post-18208109

Does it get veiled with it?

 

[michaelgreen]

It's true, the new MkII is a much more intense listening experience than the OG. They may have tamed the 8k (which didn't even bother me that much), but overall it's a brighter sound signature.

For studio use, it might actually not get much better than this. You are literally bombarded with clear detail and pinpoint staging. But for pure music enjoyment, not so much.

According to early measurements the MK2 is even brighter than the MK1.

Dunno what they tamed

 

[megabigeye]

I know that the acoustic fleece is already available since they are the same as those used in the DT 900 PRO and DT 700 PRO. I used them on the DT 1990 PRO mk1 with good results. https://www.head-fi.org/threads/bey...ressions-thread.814629/page-321#post-18208109

Where can you get them? I couldn't find them on either Beyer's US or global sites. All I could find are stock 1990/etc. discs and a handful of others. I found the pads for DT 700/900 that includes the discs, but I couldn't just find the discs by themselves.

Anybody else know where to get them in the US?

 

[Chastity]

Where can you get them? I couldn't find them on either Beyer's US or global sites. All I could find are stock 1990/etc. discs and a handful of others. I found the pads for DT 700/900 that includes the discs, but I couldn't just find the discs by themselves.

Anybody else know where to get them in the US?

https://www.beyerdynamic.de/p/schaumstoffscheibe-amiron-wireless Amiron Home pad (first kind with attenuation disc, I have these)

https://www.beyerdynamic.de/p/akustikscheibe New kind for MMX 300

https://north-america.beyerdynamic.com/p/acoustic-disc North America link, as you can see you contact sales to order them in US. I linked both as you can ask sales for either type, or both and see which you prefer. You ask, and they send you via email an order request which you fill out and give them your CC info. Ask them to supply you the part numbers, then it will get super easy to order them. (They USED to have that info on the parts page....)

 

[nierika]

Balanced is not going to make it sound better unless there's a power difference.

Doesn't matter whether you run them by unbalanced or balanced.

God, companies have nicely brainwashed people into thinking that balanced cables will make their headphones sound better.

Based on the frequency response it still looks like a typical Beyerdynamic for me which is why I'll pass, can't take that treble area.

Every headphone I have converted to balanced output sounds clearly better than unbalanced - even Sennheiser HD-25s. Trusting my own ears is not "brainwashing."

 

[arielext]

Every headphone I have converted to balanced output sounds clearly better than unbalanced - even Sennheiser HD-25s. Trusting my own ears is not "brainwashing."

Same amp?

 

[arielext]

Does it get veiled with it?

Imo it sounded better, with less piercing highs. Been a while though, havent heard a dt 1990 the last few months.

 

[megabigeye]

https://www.beyerdynamic.de/p/schaumstoffscheibe-amiron-wireless Amiron Home pad (first kind with attenuation disc, I have these)

https://www.beyerdynamic.de/p/akustikscheibe New kind for MMX 300

https://north-america.beyerdynamic.com/p/acoustic-disc North America link, as you can see you contact sales to order them in US. I linked both as you can ask sales for either type, or both and see which you prefer. You ask, and they send you via email an order request which you fill out and give them your CC info. Ask them to supply you the part numbers, then it will get super easy to order them. (They USED to have that info on the parts page....)

Thanks. Now that I see that in writing, I remember it's a a question that's been answered about 1,000 times before (and I've probably asked 999 times (but I always forget to buy it)).

 

[blochsidisco]

For pure relaxing music ......
At the moment, I listening with HD 600 or HD 490 Pro plus
....
AA Composer for audiophil HighEnd, DT1990 analytic pads for analysing

I actually did a quick A/B between the MkIIs and the 490s. Usually I use the 490s when I want detail over the musicality and cosiness of my 660S2s. But the 490s sounded almost muffled compared to the MkIIs

 

[nierika]

Same amp?

I have 2 Sennheiser HD25s. One with the standard 3m coiled cable, and the other one with the cups flipped upside down with the standard 4.4mm balanced cable from my Senn HD660S2s.

I just A/B'd both of them (adjusting for volume) on my big amp (SPL Phonitor E) and my new iBasso DC07 Pro DAC. The increase in clarity on the balanced pair is IMMEDIATELY noticeable.

I have also noticed massive improvements with my Beyer T1 gen.1s and Senn 6XXs (the 660S2s I used balanced from the start).

Are these not considered PRO AUDIO headphones? Why not include a 4pin balanced connector that is easily convertable to 3 pin so there is at least an option??? Sennheiser gets it; Beyerdynamic does not, unfortunately.

 

[vtorkalo]

I just A/B'd both of them (adjusting for volume) on my big amp (SPL Phonitor E) and my new iBasso DC07 Pro DAC.
The increase in clarity on the balanced pair is IMMEDIATELY noticeable.

Yes, balanced cable make sense with portable players and high impedance headphones, because in portable devices usually balanced output has twice avaliable voltage. Of course it's big difference when unbalanced is only 2 volts and balanced is 4 volts
In this case it's dissapointing for 1990 mark I, because it removes option to connect to balanced output which has higher avaliable voltage
Or course it's not actual with 1990 mark II because there is no need in such voltage due to 30 Ohm impedance. So you won't hear any difference with mark II

Also no difference will be with desktop amps because both outputs usually have voltage high enough to drive 250 Ohm